Erik Morales.... Numero Uno

harrison · May 23, 2009

Killer Instinct said: ↑

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the guy is always game. even on his last breath he went their swinging and risking his life. thats why i admire the guy. deal

gooners!! · May 23, 2009

BTW I reckon he probably deserved the decision over David Diaz. Who else is with me ?

Killer Instinct · May 23, 2009

gooners!! said: ↑

BTW I reckon he probably deserved the decision over David Diaz. Who else is with me ?
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100%. I have inleded this in my original post. He was robbed of being mexico's first 4 weight world champ.

Henke67 · May 23, 2009

I think he edged Diaz in a close fight.
If I remember correctly the judges scored the first round 10-9 to Morales even with the kd (which was fair enough) but then scored the second round 10-8 to Diaz with no kd (which wasn't so fair).
A real shame - being the first Mexican 4-weight champion would have been the perfect end to his career.

gooners!! · May 23, 2009

100%. I have inleded this in my original post. He was robbed of being mexico's first 4 weight world champ.
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Yeah agree with you there, he was not jobbed but he deffo won imo.

People say that Morales lacked discipline. That is true but i also think that one of the main reasons he got in shoot outs was because his ring craft was not that great, he could be trapped on the ropes and he did not use the ring intelligently......so when he tried to Box, he would always revert back to type when he got hit or pinned against the ropes etc.

I honestly think he could of won all 3 Barrera fights, if he had kept the fight in the centre of the ring like he did for the majority of the second fight. He kept getting trapped on the ropes by Barrera though. I put that down to not being able to command/use the ring intelligently enough.

Killer Instinct · May 23, 2009

Henke67 said: ↑

I think he edged Diaz in a close fight.
If I remember correctly the judges scored the first round 10-9 to Morales even with the kd (which was fair enough) but then scored the second round 10-8 to Diaz with no kd (which wasn't so fair).
A real shame - being the first Mexican 4-weight champion would have been the perfect end to his career.
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Yeah your spot on there. If he became first mexican to be 4 weight world champ i think he would no doubt gone down as the greatest mexican.

Killer Instinct · May 23, 2009

gooners!! said: ↑

Yeah agree with you there, he was not jobbed but he deffo won imo.

People say that Morales lacked discipline. That is true but i also think that one of the main reasons he got in shoot outs was because his ring craft was not that great, he could be trapped on the ropes and he did not use the ring intelligently......so when he tried to Box, he would always revert back to type when he got hit or pinned against the ropes etc.

I honestly think he could of won all 3 Barrera fights, if he had kept the fight in the centre of the ring like he did for the majority of the second fight. He kept getting trapped on the ropes by Barrera though. I put that down to not being able to command/use the ring intelligently enough.
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He definately could have won all three. Its not that he has no ring i.q but the discipline to move away without engaging in a brawl was alien to him. I really love how he used to flurry off the ropes. He COULD NOT stick to a
game plan. Not because he lacked focus but had way too much pride.

Bill Butcher · May 23, 2009

Killer Instinct said: ↑

Recently i purchased my Erik Morales Career set. I was a HUGE fan before. Now, i absolutley worship this guy. Erik Morales for me was the numero uno featherweight (or around that weight) of his era. An era that included Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Naseem hamed (to a lesser extent) and of course the now junior welterweight Manny Pacquaio. Despite losing his trilogies with both Barrera and Pacquaio i am STILL inclined to call him the better fighter of the three. Call me a fool but Morales certainly had it in him to win clearly against either. It was perhaps the double edged sword warrior machismo he possesed that prevented him from doing so.

The same machismo that made him a fan friendly fighter also lead to him being an over the hill shot fighter at the tender age of 29. From his wars with Barrera-a fighter i believe Morales could have soundly outboxed to a comfortable decision victory. To his last great performance and now iconic 12th round Vs Manny Pacquaio. Entering the 12th and final round, comfortably ahead on the score cards, Erik's trainer and father said to his son the now immortal word's, 'don't do anything stupid'. So what does Erik Morales do? He turns southpaw. He catches flush shots to the jaw. He encourages the heavy handed Pacquaio to go to war with him. That one round alone in the whole entire career of 'El terrible' captured him in all his glory.

What made Morales so unique was his excellent boxing skill and technique. He was not the fastest, flashiest or flamboyant but for a fighter who was operating at the lower weights his accuracy and timing was absolutely deadly. Many times you see fighters at lower weights throwing shots for the sake of throwing shots with speed and little accuracy and at times technique. Morales was unique when it came to this. Perhaps his greatest punch combo was his left to the body followed by his overhand right. I very seldom witnessed him miss this combination. His ability to fight off the ropes is often overlooked. Very rarely can a fighter do this without much lateral movement whilst their back is against the ropes. Morales was comfortable anywhere in the ring he could do almost anything. Anything but follow the game plan that is.

Reports are circling in the boxing world that Morales is planning a ill awaited comeback. Its genuinely hard to believe this man is still only 32. Although in boxing terms he far exceeds that age. I for one, sincerly hopes he stays retired and does not tarnish a glittering career further. A three weight world champion and in my eyes inexplicitly robbed of becoming Mexico's first four weight world champion against David Diaz. Erik Morales will definately go down as one of the greatest of his era a man whose wins and style did as much for his legacy as his defeats did. You may not agree with me when i say Erik 'El terrible' Morales numero uno. Maybe in time a revised in depth critical analysis will show he truely should be considered numero uno despite losing to his biggest rivals. Stay retired champ. Thanks for all the memories. :hi:
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Excellent post :good

Everything you said, I agree & have thought this for ages, he was the best in his time... an entertaining technical warrior.

Now watch some dickhead come post something negative, it always happens at one point.

Addie · May 23, 2009

Killer Instinct said: ↑

Recently i purchased my Erik Morales Career set. I was a HUGE fan before. Now, i absolutley worship this guy. Erik Morales for me was the numero uno featherweight (or around that weight) of his era. An era that included Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Naseem hamed (to a lesser extent) and of course the now junior welterweight Manny Pacquaio. Despite losing his trilogies with both Barrera and Pacquaio i am STILL inclined to call him the better fighter of the three. Call me a fool but Morales certainly had it in him to win clearly against either. It was perhaps the double edged sword warrior machismo he possesed that prevented him from doing so.

The same machismo that made him a fan friendly fighter also lead to him being an over the hill shot fighter at the tender age of 29. From his wars with Barrera-a fighter i believe Morales could have soundly outboxed to a comfortable decision victory. To his last great performance and now iconic 12th round Vs Manny Pacquaio. Entering the 12th and final round, comfortably ahead on the score cards, Erik's trainer and father said to his son the now immortal word's, 'don't do anything stupid'. So what does Erik Morales do? He turns southpaw. He catches flush shots to the jaw. He encourages the heavy handed Pacquaio to go to war with him. That one round alone in the whole entire career of 'El terrible' captured him in all his glory.

What made Morales so unique was his excellent boxing skill and technique. He was not the fastest, flashiest or flamboyant but for a fighter who was operating at the lower weights his accuracy and timing was absolutely deadly. Many times you see fighters at lower weights throwing shots for the sake of throwing shots with speed and little accuracy and at times technique. Morales was unique when it came to this. Perhaps his greatest punch combo was his left to the body followed by his overhand right. I very seldom witnessed him miss this combination. His ability to fight off the ropes is often overlooked. Very rarely can a fighter do this without much lateral movement whilst their back is against the ropes. Morales was comfortable anywhere in the ring he could do almost anything. Anything but follow the game plan that is.

Reports are circling in the boxing world that Morales is planning a ill awaited comeback. Its genuinely hard to believe this man is still only 32. Although in boxing terms he far exceeds that age. I for one, sincerly hopes he stays retired and does not tarnish a glittering career further. A three weight world champion and in my eyes inexplicitly robbed of becoming Mexico's first four weight world champion against David Diaz. Erik Morales will definately go down as one of the greatest of his era a man whose wins and style did as much for his legacy as his defeats did. You may not agree with me when i say Erik 'El terrible' Morales numero uno. Maybe in time a revised in depth critical analysis will show he truely should be considered numero uno despite losing to his biggest rivals. Stay retired champ. Thanks for all the memories. :hi:
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Barrera was the slightly better prizefighter, but Morales left it all in the ring every time out. Great fighter.

Bill Butcher · May 23, 2009

bladerunner said: ↑

Barrera is his daddy.
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Wrong thread buddy :good

Killer Instinct · May 23, 2009

Bill Butcher said: ↑

Excellent post :good

Everything you said, I agree & have thought this for ages, he was the best in his time... an entertaining technical warrior.

Now watch some dickhead come post something negative, it always happens at one point.
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Thanks!!!! Im glad you enjoyed my post. I can tell you actuallly read it as opposed to some people who clearly have not and just make negative comments based on the title thread. I had seen many of his fights but after rewatching them i did't quite realise how great he was. Fighters like him only come around once in a while. His accuracy was deadly, never ssen someone land at will in the super bantamweight division.

Killer Instinct · May 23, 2009

asero said: ↑

nobody overlook his ability to fight off the ropes
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perhaps i worded this wrong. I meant in the sense he was not just a warrior, he had skills when backed up to counterpunch and fight his way out through timing and precision.

Addie · May 23, 2009

Killer Instinct said: ↑

Thanks!!!! Im glad you enjoyed my post. I can tell you actuallly read it as opposed to some people who clearly have not and just make negative comments based on the title thread. I had seen many of his fights but after rewatching them i did't quite realise how great he was. Fighters like him only come around once in a while. His accuracy was deadly, never ssen someone land at will in the super bantamweight division.
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I appreciate Erik Morales, but we still need to talk about him with perspective in mind. He was easy to hit, and often made hard work of opposition he should have been dealing with relatively easy. I thought he lost to Marco at his most effective weight during his prime, and the Diaz fight was close..not a "robbery".

radab · May 23, 2009

Good post mate, enjoyed reading it. You're not going to get many who disagree with you - Morales is one of the most revered fighters here on ESB and one of the most loved fighters in the world

Erik 'El Terrible' Morales

Bill Butcher · May 23, 2009

Killer Instinct said: ↑

Thanks!!!! Im glad you enjoyed my post. I can tell you actuallly read it as opposed to some people who clearly have not and just make negative comments based on the title thread. I had seen many of his fights but after rewatching them i did't quite realise how great he was. Fighters like him only come around once in a while. His accuracy was deadly, never ssen someone land at will in the super bantamweight division.
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Erik is my 2nd favourite fighter of all time (after Ali), he never lost in his prime IMO, tho I scored the 1st Espadas fight even & the 1st MAB fight could have gone to Barrera but I scored 7 rds for Erik... I scored the 2nd fight EASILY for Morales & the 3rd fight dead even.

The man was like a cross between Mayweather & Gatti, beautiful long range boxing skills & a warriors heart just to confuse things

His performances vs Ayala & Hernandez were also excellent, in fact the only performance were he wasnt `Morales like` was vs Raheem... but he was all done by then.

That Diaz fight was tragic... the man deserved that win to top off a fabulous career... fat ******ed ***** judges make me sick at times.

Viva Morales :good

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