Joe Calzaghe looks like an ordinary fighter

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  1. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he lacked power and courage to take on elites which could have made him a HOF fighter.
     
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  2. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    when he wanted to he could make adjustments in the ring himself e.g. Kessler fight.

    But other fights including Hopkins he didnt make an adjustment, he was damn set on throwing as many punches knowing ultimately that his workrate would be his best chance of getting the win.
     
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  3. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    Joe was dropping his hands because........

    When that fight started Joe was closing the distance too fast and Hopkins was taking him down the alley and nailing him with right hand counters.

    Joe gets props for adapting

    Joe realized after a while that he needed to close the distance slowly and edge his way foward because, then he would have a better opportunity of countering Hopkins counters, he wasn't allowing himself that opportunity before because he was closing the distance to quicky and not allowing himself time to react/ get out the way.

    The hands down thing was to draw leads for an exclusive counter puncher, and because Joe was closing the distance slowly he was virtually saying to Hopkins im giving myself time and room to counter what you throw so ill drop my hands and dare you to throw it in order to counter.

    Joe keeps his hands up against Hopkins he makes himself more hittable, that way of protecting yourself dont work against someone like Hopkins, all that does is [url]obscure[/url] your vision and allow Hopkin to move around you and attack you from another angle while your vision is [url]obscure[/url]d
     
    gooners!!, May 25, 2009
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  4. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe was so good because he was a complete fighter.
    He could brawl and box, had excellent stamina and chin.
    Nearly all of his stats boxes had an 8/10 or 9/10 in, perhaps 10 in some cases.

    Some fighters are huge punchers 10/10 but have little boxing skill or weak chins. Khan may have a good score for speed and skills for example but the chin and durability bring his average right down.

    During any fight, the weakest aspect of your game can be exposed by a decent opponent with a good gameplan.

    Khan - Go for the KO.
    Taylor - Suspect stamina, take him into the later rounds.
    Hatton - Cuts, look to cut him.
    - Outbox him.

    Calzaghe has enough all round ability to see off the majority, the weaknesses of struggling with spoilers seems to be his biggest problem. Look at the problems Bika and Hopkins would pose to most fighters!! This problem seems caused by the opponent, not Calzaghe.

    Great fighter, gone now the division looks set to become exciting again.
     
    UndisputedUK, May 25, 2009
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  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe was an extraordinary fighter, there's no doubting that.
     
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  6. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you had bad hands you simply cannot put maximum power into your shots.
    A damaged hand against a decent opponent would have been a big problem for Joe.
     
    UndisputedUK, May 25, 2009
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  7. gooners!!

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    I agree

    Joe struggled with fighters that broke his rhythm up.

    I dont think he fought many fighters in his prime like that though. Hopkins is the only slick fighter he has fought really.

    The only other type of opponents that troubled him that were not slick fighters were rough you up type guys who broke your rhythm by being rugged and scrappy Reid,Bika.
     
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  8. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has pretty damn good footwork,too.
     
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  9. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    ..........He does.
     
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  10. gooners!!

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    On reflection it seems that Calzaghe gets unfairly looked on as being an ordinary fighter because he is not exceptional at anything, but he is a good at everything which makes him a more complete fighter.
     
    gooners!!, May 25, 2009
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  11. sam_sunders

    sam_sunders science Full Member

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    another dumb thread, but i'll respond to this...

    yeah he didn't need to do that. sticking his head an in from RJJs head while his hands were behind his back was pretty insane though, gotta admit that.

    also, the lat two rounds he could have easily koed RJJ but did not (he was practically shadow boxing) and i'm glad he took his foot off the gas.
     
    sam_sunders, May 25, 2009
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  13. Toopretty

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    ****** ass thread.
     
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  14. gooners!!

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    Roy Jones career ended in 2004. Is it any wonder Joe was able to take liberty's with him ? Glen Johnson had, had his way with Jones how many years before that.

    It was more a mark of how far gone a once great was.
     
    gooners!!, May 25, 2009
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  15. Kaki

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    amazing defensive reflexes? :patsch don't try to make him out to be some kind of PBF/RJJ/Sweet Pea/slick boxer.
     
    Kaki, May 25, 2009
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