Oliver McCall vs. John Hopoate

I still fail to see what having 8 kids, etc has got to do with him not having a go of it in the US?!

Sox, you mention that he should have stayed in Oz, rematched Mirovic instead.
Lets imagine that McCall called out Hoppa, yet Hoppa declines and instead rematches a guy he has already beaten. Now that there would suggest that he didn't want to have a go of it, and that he didn't have the balls, etc.

What you have pretty much suggested he do, is what Mundine has been doing (ducks a Kessler rematch to fight Soliman again) in the past.

You think Hoppa knew he was going to lose. I beg to differ. Sure he knew he was the underdog, but this is boxing, and heavyweight boxing at that, where anything can happen. Theres nothing wrong at all with trying to reach a goal that many think is too hard to reach.
Was it wrong for Glen Kelly to take up the Roy Jones fight, or should he have declined and continued fighting on the domestic scene?

Seriously, we bag out our locals a lot for not stepping it up. We get a guy with limited ability compared to some of our other boxers, and now we're bagging him for going out and testing himself on the world stage.
Give me a break.

 

Lucky hoppa didnt fight cameron or tua because the kiwi's would of rub it in


Any one agree hoppa is still the top heavy for aussie? honestly I think he is just dont send him back to the states.

 

He is for now, but I'd like to see him take on Alex Leapai, Kirby or De Mori. These will be good matchups. Otherwise Shane Cameron would be a test for him. I wouldn't bother with Mirovic because he has nothing to offer and on his way out.

 

Guest Oliver "the atomic bull" McCall live interview today at 6 pm est


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Oliver is after another title shot. Got a chance to talk to his trainer earlier and he's in excellent shape. I also talked to his brother Frank who and he was very happy with Fridays results. Oliver is back on the winning track vs a credible opponent and Elijah McCall remains unbeaten through 4 fights as a 21 year old 6-2 225 pound HW. He looks an awful lot like a young version of his dad.

 

Not to me it wouldn't. As I said, we need to crawl before we can walk.
I'm more than comfortable with a fighter not being thrown in the deep end too early.

I didn't mean for Hoppa to necessarily fight Mirovic immediately, but at least at some point, either before or after fighting some more local fighters.

Hang about, Mundine ducking Kessler is at a much later stage in his career than where Hoppa is.
Though Mundine did step it up to soon anyway, hence why he got KO'd so early in his career, although he did do much better than Hoppa.

Mundine needs to step it up at this stage of his career, and finally is.

True enough, and you might be right. Though IMO he was surely delusional if he really did think he could take this away. Or led into a dangerous sense of security by the people around him. Aren't management supposed to look after the best interests of their fighters, particularly in their early stages?

Perhaps, but in this instance the goal was just too great IMO. Which is why I feel that all the 'having a go' stuff is unwarranted. It was all about money, nothing more.

Dunno, can't say I know enough about the circumstance of that. Looking at his record, he'd been in the game a lot longer than Hoppa.

Only because of the point of his career at which he steps it up, and as a consequence the motive.
In fact, I'm not even that dirty on Hoppa about it, I'm more stunned as to why everyone feels it was such a big deal, when in reality it was a dumb move.

 

Fighting McCall was brave but almost ludicrous for Hoppa. The guy is known to have almost the best chin in the history of boxing and Hoppa went out there to outslug him.

Good effort Hoppa but honestly you need to fight boxers with suspect chins, not guys who can't be knocked out with a baseball bat.

 

My opinion is that Hoppa knew he had to move quick due to his age, thought he would be able to overpower and KO McCall due to his age, and this would open more doors in the US for him, resulting in more $$$.

It didn't pan out that way, and Hoppa has had his 15 minutes of fame.

To be brutally honest, Hoppa has shown no skill whatsoever as a boxer, and has looked pretty ordinary against pretty ordinary opponents, and was even KOd by one.

He and Solo should never have ruled out a fight between them because they're 'brothers' - it would have been like a bout of rock em sock em robots :yep

If he wants to continue boxing, he can really only hope to be competitve on the current Aussie HW scene. But I think if he gives Big Bob a rematch, Big Bob wins.

 

Grinder...post more.

 

Has it been on yet?

I wouldnt mind having a listen.

 

to be honest, Hoppa did really really well in the first round.he took the 1st round.
In the 2nd , it looked like he was absolutely buggered.
I'm starting to think the only reason he lost early was because of his stamina.
He couldn't even block a jab in the 2 round..
thoughts?

 

Nah...I think it was because he got hit and went down.

I see what your saying but he was just outclassed by a much better fighter..To say it was simply because of his stamina makes out that he only needs to improve that and he will be beating fighters like McCall.

 

I've heard of a few people (including Dave Millward) say they thought Hoppa won the first round, but I couldn't see that watching the fight...McCall comes out breathing fire from the opening bell and sends Hoppa back with a jab, and then pretty much swarms him all round, apart from when Hoppa clips McCall on the top of his head with a big right, but it has no effect.

McCall noticeably slows down/backs off towards the end of the round, but I think that was because he'd figured Hoppa out and was saving his energy for disposing of him in the second round.

 

I dont think he won the first round...there wasnt much in it but McCall clearly landed more clean shots and controlled the ring a bit better.

 

Won the 1st rd, funny ****. Next thing you'll be saying he might have hurt mccall. He was made to look like the novice he is. Mccall was that relaxed he was talking to the ref. Hoppa will probably dog the rematch with big bob & go for a trilogy fight with fitzgerald, then maybe call out BEN EDWARDS