Bigger Cheater Mosely or Margarito??

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  1. cannon5974

    cannon5974 Member Full Member

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    I don't agree with Margarito having a foreign substance in his gloves and I feel he should be punished. Everyone on this forum is talks about him being a big time cheater, but doesn't talk about Moseley being on steroids for his fights. He was clearly involved into the Balco scandal.

    I think being on steroids is going to give you more of an improvement than a little substance in your gloves. Steroids today can help you increase your strength, speed, and even eye coordination. I think there is more of a benefit to being on roids in Boxing and MMA than any other sport, but the media doesn't seem to make a big deal of it. I think Boxers and Mixed Martial Artist on steroids are the biggest cheaters in sports today.....IMO!
     
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    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    **** you.
     
  3. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They're in the same boat
     
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    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mosley got of to easy IMO for his self confessed steroid use and being a keen Athletics fan I can tell you that Athletics fans are less forgiving towards drug cheats.

    Personally I dont see how Steroids would help a boxer because it seems to kill your stamina and you would probably be spent after one round.
     
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    Margo's cheating was more dangerous for his opposition .Though you cant overlook the big edge you gain by using roids.
     
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    Mosley took EPO, which helps stamina.
     
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    no use acting like an idiot here. This is serious. If shane did cheat in this way then hes as dirty as margarito(if he definately cheated too). I try and not judge them too quickly, after all who knows what they did...but if they did cheat in this way they are both scum and should have their record whiped out and spend time behind bars. My only hope is none of their opponents werent seriously damaged by any of this.
     
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    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WOW where do they sell that stuff at..I think that would be something that FDA would be interested in. Im pretty sure they would make that legal:rasta
     
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    I think its because we dont exactly know what the substances that Mosely took will do for you. I mean I doubt they help you take a punch!

    But we have seen what loaded gloves can do, and its devastating!
     
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    margo's trainer admitted to using old wraps


    mosley injected himself



    you decide.....
     
  11. Thread Stealer

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    Steroid use (the cream/clear) is of course, dangerous for the opposition. The idea is obviously to perform better, and you put hurt on your opponent when you perform better. Take EPO as well, you have more stamina, and more energy to do damage to your opponent.

    Still, it just seems more savage and disturbing to load your gloves. That **** is just disgusting.

    Mosley's cheating was the "lesser of 2 evils".

    Not to justify Mosley's cheating (I've always been critical of it and how people let it slide because Mosley has a nice guy rep), but there is the possibilty that a fairly high percentage of people in the sport (and all sports as well) are on some sort of illegal PED. I can't say the same about loading your gloves with plaster like substances. I doubt it's a common occurrence (and sure hope it isn't).

    **** the Plastered *******.
     
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    The only difference is one got punished, one didnt.
     
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    I still cant understand people who say, 'ooo their not proven to do anything'.......if he took them ....HE TRIED TO CHEAT. He tried to gain an illegal advantage surely knowing it possibley puts the opponent in more serious risk of serious injury. This is no joke.
     
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    http://www.ringtv.com/blog/242/mosleys_problem_might_be_boxings_problem/


    There was The Clear, a liquid that later became known as THG, an undetectable anabolic steroid that he had been giving to his track athletes and that one track coach referred to as "rocket fuel." There was The Cream, a lotion Conte used as a masking agent; it tricked even the most advanced drug testers by keeping the body's levels of testosterone at normal levels. Then there was the bottle Conte says was labeled "Procrit."



    The liquid in the bottle allegedly was erythropoietin, or EPO. Originally developed and manufactured by U.S. pharmaceutical giant Amgen, it is a synthetic version of the hormone made by the kidneys that stimulates the body's production of red blood cells. Cancer patients use it after chemotherapy. People suffering from anemia use it. People with malfunctioning kidneys use it. So do professional cyclists and distance runners to illicitly boost endurance by increasing their concentration of red blood cells that carry oxygen to muscles.

    The game changer.




    There are the obvious endurance benefits during competition. There's the ability to train harder and longer. There's also, at least anecdotally, what appears to be anabolic (or muscle building) properties, especially when combined with known anabolic substances such as testosterone. Athletes have privately talked about it for years, that some illicit substances seem to make others work better, that one plus one sometimes equals three.

    And in boxing, you have a sport that requires a unique mix of strength and stamina ...

    "In certain respects, I think EPO is the perfect drug for boxing," says Dr. Margaret Goodman, the former chief ringside physician for Nevada. "And it's much easier to use than some of the other things out there. It's the ideal thing to use, especially if you’re fighting 12 rounds.

    "It's going to get you the most bang for your buck."
     
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