"Pacquiao will break Mayweather down if they ever collide" -Freddie Roach

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  1. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't talk to that Floyd hugger. he does not know a thing about boxing. :lol:
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void is boring. He leaches off other fighters who sell tickets.
     
  3. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    If I remember right, Roach said in that interview that he feels that Manny can land hard punches on Floyd's body through timing and feints.

    They'll try to fake Floyd out and mess up his defensive rythym, and when Mayweather reads the movements wrong and rolls or blocks too early/too late, they then throw their shots.
     
  4. redifish

    redifish Active Member Full Member

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    Lol. Good observation but lacking in analysis.

    I'll give you an example which you already know but intentionally or unintentionally forget it, the first knockdown of Hatton in the 1st round. Another one is the knockout punch(which is the one you have a problem with) in the 2nd round. If you look at the slow-mo, Pac's head is still down but at the same time he's still looking at Hatton.

    That kinda punch(left) is rarely used by other fighters, Pac uses it a lot, at least twice in the Hatton fight. Did it with Marquez II but slightly different angle. He also does it with the right.

    I'm sorry but you actually ridicule a knockout punch?
     
  5. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Not criticizing the punch just criticizing the technique. remember Pac just recently learned the right hook. If he is not looking at Floyd while he throwing a punch, Floyd being the defensive genius he is, will slip it. Its alot different hitting a wide open Hatton then hitting Floyd Mayweather. Pacquiao caught Hatton with a combination while looking down during the first 1st round of the fight. I think that says more about Hatton then Pac.
     
  6. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    But it took 10rounds for floyd to hit that wide open hatton....You know why? Pac's just too fast...And definitely floyd will have problems with pacs speed and awkwardness...:good
     
  7. DON1

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    I cant get over all this Pacturd nuthugging. What happened to your boy De La Hoya Roach? When you predicted he would wipe out Floyd? No one aint breaking Floyd don you *****.
     
  8. redifish

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    The thing is, we're not sure if Floyd will see the punch coming. And that kind of punch, Pac doesn't start it by itself, he throws a lot of combo's before using it. Oh well, we'll find out for sure if they actually fight.
     
  9. Danny_Rand

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    Lol, what are you talking about. Floyd was landing flush on Hatton since round 1. Pac has speed, but its not concentrated. As to why Marquez was able to time him.
     
  10. redifish

    redifish Active Member Full Member

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    Another thing, there is big change in Pac's approach the last 3 fights. He hasn't stagnate. I'm pretty sure there's a more effective gameplan against Marquez if they ever fight again.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    It all depends on what fighter you have in front of you. Floyd did cover up in shoulder roll against DLH but not Judah. Plus it is stupid to give the impression that Floyds whole game is a shoulder roll and laying on the ropes.
     
  12. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather did use a high guard against Judah, but he also used the shoulder-roll at times -- when Judah caught him with that big straight-left that snapped his head back, Mayweather was in the shoulder-roll stance.
     
  13. marsb8888

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    theres was only one fight so far of mayweather that i saw his heart/will got tested and that was the castillo 1 fight. outside the ring, pbf seem to have weak heart as shown in the brian interview when brian asked a legitimate question and pbf got agitated as soon as pacquiao's name was mentioned. i hope we get the pbf-pac fight so we can find out just how tough pbf's heart/will to win really is
     
  14. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    interestingly, floyd abandoned his shoulder roll defense against zab judah.
     
  15. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    yeah. looks like the shoulder roll is not as effective against southpaws w/ speed, power, accuracy and activity as well as those having an unorthodox (non-textbook) style of boxing.