Chagaev verus Valuev. Your pick and are you interested?

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Chagaev beat him very easily last time. Really easy. I made a thread analyzing that fight last time and I've no idea how they scored it a SD because Chagaev won wide.

    If that was a SD, then Chagaev having been inactive/injured is likely to make the gap a little closer and I wouldn't be surprised to see Valuev get the decision.
     
  2. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's a reason they took the fight to Finland.
    Even if Chagaev beats him again, he's getting robbed this time.
     
  3. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unfortunately it's not going to happen.
    If Chag's behaviour is any indicator, the judges already got their instructions.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The paper was Swiss. I would like to know which paper it was, but the article doesn't say. To be fair, the article also notes that the decision was booed.

    No way man! That fight hurt my eyes :lol:

    And i'm not trying to say that Valuev won, at all. I am just pointing out that there seems to be a discrepany between what the people at home and the people scoring the fight from ringside seem to have made of the thing.
     
  5. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chagaev UD.

    Valuev was dreadful against Holyfield. Holyfield wasn't that much better either but as the champion that was pitiful stuff.

    I thought Chagaev deserved the UD the first time out, it wasn't faultless but he got his in-and-out attacks right, so I hope he repeats the result even better this time round. I simply do not think Valuev has credibility left and I'd prefer someone who has.
     
  6. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im not interested, Valuev already lost his intrigue when he was outboxed by Holyfield and Chagaev, and Ruslan well he hasn't shown me that his willing to challange the Klitschkos, so bottom line, this fight doesn't have any significance.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't think losing causes a fighter to lose his intrigue. Although maybe you do have a point as the main issue for Valuev was whether or not he could make such a huge frame work in the sport.
     
  8. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Especially when you consider all the injustice suffered by so many guys who fought him. Donald - robbed, Ruiz - robbed (twice), Holyfield - robbed, Chagaev - robbed (of a clear UD)...
    :twisted:
     
  10. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    Right on the money, exactly my POV.
     
  11. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do you mean?
     
  12. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chag didn't show up for the media workout.
    Chag didn't stay for interviews and left immediately after the press conference was over.

    To me the guy is acting like he's given up all hope and is just there to show up for the fight. It's a sort of "leave me the f*ck alone people can't you see I'm being screwed over here" behavior.
     
  13. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    I think he means Team Chagaev already sents a robbery in the making. But maybe such a robbery wouldn't be that bad for boxing. Imagine Valuev getting a really discraceful decision, he would pretty much be forced to fight the K-Bros, since it would be his last chance at a big payday.
    K-Bros KO Valueless, he retires - everybody's happy...
     
  14. Like a fool I'll be tuning in hoping for an entertaining and dramatic heavyweight world title battle, only to gradually, round by round, sink helplessly into an unbreakable 1000 yard stare, drooling beer into my Pringles like some sort of lobotomised vegetable.
     
  15. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chagaev close decision. No.