What if Clottey beats Cotto???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by buckdacious, May 28, 2009.


  1. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    clottey: shells up, lacks workrate, doesn't ever take chances, applies very little pressure despite people thinking he's a "pressure fighter", fights in short flurries/spurts.

    cotto: never holds, throws bombs all fight at a consistent pace, gets hurt every now and then only to come back stronger and get in brutal wars with opponents, IS a pressure fighter.

    i mean, come on. how can you even compare the two if you've followed both their careers. cotto is by far the more exciting fighter. i hope he hands clottey a beatdown so i get to see him in many more wars to come.
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    I didnt say Cotto isnt exciting because I've been watching him for years and he always throws down. I'm just saying I dont think Clottey is boring thats all, Cotto is the more excitiing fighter for sure. This fight will be poppin though, I know that!!
     
  3. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What power shots you talking about? He couldnt stop a faded overblown Chico, he couldnt hurt Zab, he went life and death with Flores and Guiterrez. I dont see this so called power he has. And no he wont be able to beat Cotto cause dude has never beaten an elite fighter and it wont start with Cotto.
     
  4. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that Cotto is more aggressive, and is a bigger draw. The style differences make me feel that it will be tougher for him than a lot of people think though. Cotto winning will lead to more big exciting fights for us to watch - but Clottey really is underrated and could pull this off. This fight will determine several future line-ups, so I can't wait to see it.
     
  5. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One covers up and dont throw enough while the others throws jabs, left hooks to the body and good right hands. Yea I say the style favors Cotto more then inactive Clottey, And people need to stop with this size bull****.

    Manny just beat two guys who were supposed to be bigger in Oscar and Hatton and Floyd did the same to Oscar. Size is not that important as you may think.
     
  6. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Dude Clottey was beating Margarito more then Cotto was, and thats Cottos only loss. So your saying Clottey has no shot?? Were talking about the same Cotto that gets hit alot and has been hurt plenty of times. Dont get me wrong Cotto is good, but hes not that much better then Clottey. I really think this is a toss up fight because you never know what Clottey is gonna bring because this is his biggest fight yet. It might be the best Clottey we've ever seen, Should be a good one.
     
  7. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Look Joker, Cotto will be more active but when Clottey lands hes gonna feel it. Clottey has a great uppercut too which lands on Cotto. Yeah I think Cotto can win but to think hes gonna be a blowout or something is crazy, Clottey is the ****.
     
  8. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If clottey loses, he's become a gatekeeper along with Quintana and Cintron. Let's face it, those guys are not that exciting(well except for cintron who can apply pressure). If clottey wins, he will be fighting one of the above.

    As for cotto, well thats a HUGE step back in his career. He's gonna have to get at least 3 solid wins before coming become a serious p4p contender..
     
  9. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    i dont know about that man. i was at cotto margarito fight and let me tell you i was sitting around a lot of mexican fans who were getting very, very worried up until about the 7th round. cotto was absolutely destroying margarito with power punches until he gassed. any other fighter would have been unconscious by that point.
     
  10. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    i agree its going to be a very tough fight for both guys and its not gonna be a blowout by any means, but i do think if cotto fights smart (not like how he fought against margo) there's no way he's not winning by UD.
     
  11. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good This is right on. Clottey was beating the crap out of Margarito. The Cotto fight is his biggest fight. Regardless of a fighters expected performance, when they have their "shot", they often perform at a different level. I expect Cotto to be at a different level as well, so it should be a war.

    Lets remember, Clottey has never been stopped, I don't even think he's been knocked down (not sure), and his only other loss was a DQ; and Cotto can be hurt (seen it several times, even by guys who aren't big punchers). I expect both to give 110%, and ultimately expect Cotto to pull off a decision, but would not be surprided if Clottey wins (I'm not counting him out).
     
  12. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm just saying cause people talk about Clottey's power but fail to realize that Clottey has just 1 ko in the last 5 years. Thats doesnt sound like someone with alot of power. Yea I do believe this might be the best Clottey we have ever seen cause this is the biggest shot he has ever seen but I dont think he will do enough to get a win.
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well....if that is the outlook that you have for this fight then I understand why you feel this way. Unfortunately for you Josh is similar to Winky with his "D" and more active. He'll be hard to hit and he'll be quick to respond. The Jab will play a factor in keeping Cotto off set and at a distance where he'll have limited opportunities to get to Josh's body.

    Josh is not an in active fighter.....he's conservative and very accurate. He's not a POWER puncher but very sharp. If you don't want to accept that Josh is the bigger man and it will be a factor so be it. Just don't go making bets based on emotions or biased points of views.

    Cotto is not Manny....PAC is operating on a completely different level than Cotto. Manny and Floyd are in a class all their own in the Talent dept. Plus guys like Floyd and Manny have natural gifts that even the Elite level guys don't enjoy...speed, explosiveness, power, reflexes ect. Do what you want but I suggest you enjoy the fight without putting up any serious dough. Keep your money.
     
  14. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clottey also couldn't finish off a Chico outside of his weight class while outweighing him by some 10-15 lbs.

    Obviously Clottey has some power but to suggest he's going to KO Cotto is a little silly.
     
  15. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No one is comparing Cotto to Manny or Floyd. I'm just stating the facts that size really dont matter. Tyson was a midget beating men bigger then him all his life. So size is not as important as you make it. Its just that people keep saying Clotteys size is important. Its just a myth him winning cause of size. This has nothing to do with emotional ties. Its just my view of two fighters and what they do in the ring.

    One is active and moves pretty well while the other chooses to cover up to much in fights. Shane who is pretty fast and as active as you can get couldnt beat Cotto. So how is someone who dont throw suppose to win.

    I will bet money cause its a given that I will be paid after the fight. You however shouldnt.