Re-watched Pacquiao-Marquez.........My thoughts

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    partly, that's why ALL judges gave pac round 1 in their second fight...round 1 is the most even round of their 36 rounds

    perhaps round 9 of the 1st fight was the 2nd hardest round to score
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    round 1- Pac 10-6

    round 2- Pac 10-9 20-15 Pac (close, possibly even round)

    round 3- JMM 10-9 29-25 Pac

    round 4- JMM 10-9 38-35 Pac

    round 5- JMM 10-9 47-45 Pac

    round 6- JMM 10-9 56-55 Pac

    round 7- JMM 10-9 65-65 Even (close round but JMM takes it)

    round 8- JMM 10-9 74-75 JMM (almost even until JMM takes it in last 30 seconds)

    round 9- 10-10 84-85 JMM (very close round)

    round 10- Pac 10-9 94-94 Even (Pacquiao's best round since the first)

    round 11- JMM 10-9 103-104 JMM

    round 12- JMM 10-9 112-114 JMM (JMM edges it)

    JMM 114-112

    Well, maybe Marquez didn't win every round after the first but maybe he took em all except 10 (at least there is an argument for it). Close/swing rounds. Not easy to score. A draw is fair, but JMM clearly out-boxed Pacquiao most of the fight. I was a bit puzzled that both were ahead 115-110 on two different scorecards. IMO but the 113-113 was the most reasonable of the 3 judges.
     
  3. asero

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    i watch round 9 of the first fight and i initially gave it to JMM but now i change my scorecard and gave it to pac...i had pac winning the first fight by 3 points. i never score even rounds
     
  4. asero

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    just post your scorecards on rounds 7,9 and 12...those three are highly competitive and close rounds

    in the 2nd fight, rounds 1,7 and 11 are close rounds but rd 7 is for pac and 11 is for jmm
    round 1 is the most even rounds of their two fights. that is an example of 10-10. But i do not score even rounds
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    7,9,12 are the closest rounds no doubt.
     
  6. asero

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    those rounds are so close but pac is the harder puncher clearly

    nothing beats round 1 of their rematch. It is extremely so close
     
  7. Guidokz

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    I also notice about the low blows unleashed by JMM that it was pac whose the one signaling JMM to keep it up instead of that idiot referee..
     
  8. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Yes, the harder punches in those rounds maybe, but I'm not sure he landed enough of them. Round 1 in the 2nd was very close, could go either way. I think I gave it just barely to JMM, but it's tough to try and score.

    Neither one has beaten the other decisively in my mind. Too bad number III will probably never happen. I can't argue with either winning either fight by a point or two but I went with JMM in the first, and I think last time I scored the 2nd fight I had it even.
     
  9. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    They were border-line. I don't quite see them as clear low-blows. Not 8 times anyway. Maybe a couple.
     
  10. asero

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    2nd fight could go either way but pac had done enough to win rounds 1,2,7,10 and 12 in their fight fight. Plus, round 9 was also close
     
  11. Jeff M

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    Pacquiao obviously showed he could take body punches and does not have a glass body as well. JMM landed some nice body shots in the fight.
     
  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    1,2, and 10 were clear, but 7,9, and 12 could have went either way as well.
     
  13. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    i had pac winning five rounds. marquez won seven rounds in that fight in my scorecard. with the three KDs in the first round, the fight should have been awarded to pac
     
  14. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    round five was very close, pac won rounds 1,2, 10,11, 12 in my card
     
  15. Boom_Boom

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    You have 4 close rounds, 3 going to JMM and 1 even with a scorecard of 114-112

    but see no way the fight could be scored for Pacman :patsch