Ike Quartey Was A Monster

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    His fight over a 33-1 Vince Phillips is almost never talked about.

    11 months after the Quartey fight Phillip's would upset Tzysu, and his only lose in 34 fights before the Quartey fight was on cuts. He hadn't yet slipped into drugs and other things that would mar the rest of his career shortly after the Tzysu.

    Really, Quartey absolutely destroyed him. Amazing performance, Quartey had a few around this time peroid for the title. The job he did on Jung-Oh Park was unbelievable, one of the very best if not the best example of a jab I have ever seen. Jung looked like someone had beaten his face in with a bat. I've always remember at the end someone in English trying to communicate with his team that they needed to get him to a hospital. His face was ****ed.

    Quartey seemed to suffer because of his refusal to align himself with big time promoters, he retired in disgust eventaully and ran his own business in his homeland before returning against Forrest.

    And speaking of that fight, disgusting robbery. I don't know how many people have seen it but I scored it a year or two ago and you can't give Forrest more then 4 rounds, being generous.

    The fight was at 154 and Quartey was well past his best. Sloppy fight but Quartey clearly won. I remember at the end the crowd booing and Quarey standing/hanging over the ropes looking at the judges like "The **** is wrong with you people?". He looked confused and just depressed.

    Forrest's next two fights were a 12-0 sweep on a game Baldomir and then a highlight reel KO of Michele Piccirillo.

    Regardless of Quartey being unadaptable among other things, he was a very capable fighter. Many think he beat Hoya... Really, if the man could have gotten a few more big names he could have been an ATG.

    I'd favor him over Trinidad. Trinidad struggled against jabbers and Quartey had one of the best of all time. And even if Trinidad floors him Quartey's going to get back up. Jose Luis Lopez tagged him with some ****ing bombs and Quartey got up twice without being hurt for long.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also, having a consistent single great asset in the ring isn't always a weakness if you're good enough with it.

    How long did Pacquiao live off the straight left for example?
     
  3. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Favourite fight with quartey was the one against Espana.That was him at his best imo, though Espana maybe took him lightly at the time.He'd had some troubles leading up to the fight and a fever of some sort.

    Still, he was an underrated hard hitting technical boxer-puncher who wouldn't have been a sure win for DLH, Pea, McGirt, Tito and co.

    Ike deserves credit for that one.
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What do you think of his win against a near peak form Phillip's?
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Ike is one of my favorites.
    Wish I had more of his fights in my collection.
     
  6. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ike was a hard fighter to figure. Arguably his biggest achievements were fights that he officially lost, vs. DeLaHoya and Forrest. I thought he definitely beat Forrest (which surprised me, as I felt Quartey was the older and more faded of the two), and I thought he might've just shaded Hoya or at least got a draw. At the same time, I thought his fights with Lopez and especially Vargas, when he still should've been in or near his prime, exposed his limitations.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Espana was getting the better of Ike throughout most of their match. He was just a more fluid, varied combination puncher than the stiffer, more one-dimensional Ike. He lacked the durability to last with Ike in the later rounds, though.

    Anyways, Ike was a very good fighter, short of great though, mostly due to his lack of variety and limited skill-set. I'd never in my life favor him over Trinidad. He'd probably cause the slow starting Trinidad trouble early on with the jab, at least while Tito was warming up his engine. Once he got going, that'd be all she wrote for Ike, who just didn't have what was needed outside of the jab to keep him off, in particular lateral movement. Not to mention the punch Ike was most susceptible to, the left hook, was Tito's bread and butter. 8th or 9th round KO for Tito.
     
  8. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a shame Espana retired, though i think he got a detached retina after the Quartey fight anyway.

    He could possibly have won a rematch once he knew what he was up against by pacing himself a bit better.
     
  9. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    Wasn't it after Quartey when Forrest was thanking God, his family, his trainer etc when Larry Merchant told him "Shouldn't you also thank the judges?"
     
  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  11. faisal

    faisal Hoolios daddy Full Member

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    quartey had one of the best jabs of that era i think the trinidad fight is a hard one to call if quartey stayed behind his jab i cant see why he wouldnt be able to walk away with a decision however wild exchanges like the one in the de la hoya fight would get him KO'd trinidads skillset was somewhat limited IMO he was exposed by de la hoya who was a one handed fighter i think quartey was more rounded then hoya
     
  12. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I saw the Quartey-Phillips fight a month or two back on youtube. I expected it to be a good fight, especially given that I could judge from the commentary that it was before Phillips upset Tzysu. So I was shocked at the way Ike steamrolled Phillips.

    A great example of a fight that you'd think should have been competitive, (especially given the workrate and punching power of Phillips) but just wasn't.

    As for Quartey-Trinidad, I always go back and forth on who I think would win that one. Quartey's jab would be a major problem for Trinidad, but considering that Quartey was not the most mobile fighter in the world, could he keep from getting caught by an accurate series of punches from Trinidad the whole fight?

    Ultimately that one rests on how long you think Quartey could neutralize Trinidad behind his jab.
     
  13. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    Damn. I really admire the way that Ike fought and brought that lethal jab to the ring. I would also have loved to see him put Trinidad on his back>



    Having said that, I don't think Ike could pull it off due to



    1. Drops his hands. He does this repeatedly in fights and it will cost him dearly against a deadly and accurate puncher in Trinidad. Felix has some very harsh overdraft fees in the form of straight rights and left hooks.


    2. Stamina and chin. Sure, the punchers that did drop him were some of the best in the division but Trinidad was arguably the best puncher in all of 147. Better than Jose Luis Lopez himself, who nearly took out Ike when the mood struck him. Tito seemed to never get tired and while he was dropped a few times at 147, it took almost a whole fight before a middleweight great in Hopkins stopped him.

    This does not bode well in a war of attrition for Quartey.

    3.Trinidad Sr. He is an underated trainer who knew his fighter inside and out. They
    would formulate a game plan to neutralize the Ghananian's jab and end matters early.
     
  14. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    ive always thought this was a very underrated win for oscar. better than the vargas and trinidad performances
    ike was a very very good fighter and probably would have beaten almost any other fighter around the weight that night.

    hes like the john mugabi of his generation..
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Except far more proven even years past his peak.