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The process of floyd ducking Pacquiao has begun

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chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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1lehudson said: ↑

But its OK that Pac says that he has to make more money?? I just love the way that people like you always seem to point out something that one fighter does then bash the **** out of him for it while making excuses for another fighter that is doing the same thing. Both guys are saying that the fight isnt going to happen unless they get the larger share, but you only call out floyd for it???
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Pac never said such a thing, what he said was Floyd is not as good as he think he is and that he doesnt have the balls of a JMM. Its Arum who said that but hes a promoter.

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1lehudson said: ↑

Blah blah blah, Floyd is ducking because he want test himself, Blah blah..But Pac wants the fight because he wants 65/35, he wants Cotto at 140, and Shane at 144..yeah yeah we know. floyd is scared to fight everyone, and everyfighter he fights sucks all the way until they fight the next guy then they are a test for that fighter and a great fight for that fighter. Maybe you should take a step back and read and understand the crap that you and other like you post.
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the difference was arum and roach was saying that. in floyd's case he was the one saying those things for himself. so if there are anyone we had to bash, it is arum and floyd and not pac.

puga_ni_nana, May 30, 2009

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Lets see..Pac wants Floyd to come down in weight? But was more than willing to fight Oscar at 147? Pac just fought Floyds last two opponents...So that means they were picked by Pac for the same reasons you cliam they were picked for Floyd..Mayweather is getting 15 mil to fight JMM..Pac got 12 for Hatton..Do the math..Mayweather Has been paid more for all three common opponents that they share..And you think he is going to give Pac a even slice plus come down in weight? Pac's demands are way off base..If Pac thinks he can make more money facing some one else..Lets see him do it..Its not at 140..I'll tell you that..Not one fighter at 140 is being considred..You know why? Not enough money pal...Pay attention....:deal
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Pac is not a welterweight and Floyd is. Fighting at a catchweight at l43 is but fair, IMO. :deal

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1lehudson said: ↑

Blah blah blah, Floyd is ducking because he want test himself, Blah blah..But Pac wants the fight because he wants 65/35, he wants Cotto at 140, and Shane at 144..yeah yeah we know. floyd is scared to fight everyone, and everyfighter he fights sucks all the way until they fight the next guy then they are a test for that fighter and a great fight for that fighter. Maybe you should take a step back and read and understand the crap that you and other like you post.
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Maybe you should wake up and stop giving Mayweather your hard earned cash for fighting in mismatches. I couldn't give a stuff if the fight happened or not, all I would like to see is Floyd take a risk for a change instead of acting like an insecure little ***** so I will re-iterate this for you and your floydettes. If Floyd does not fight either Cotto, Mosley or Williams and I will chuck pacquiao in there too for the fans then he is a disgrace to this sport.

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let the fight happen in december...at 144...revenue split would depend on how PBF-JMM would sell

asero, May 30, 2009

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tysonlewisbook said: ↑

Yes it has. Manny and Roach clearly want the fight, they are already goading floyd. but floyd is already lining up his many excuses and reasons to avoid Pacquiao - the money split, Pac's losses, floyd beat Oscar and Hatton first and more impressively, it's not about bragging rights, etc.

then you got Ellerbe out there insisting that floyd must make more money than Pacquiao - if they fight. everyone knows it has to be 50-50 but floyd is setting himself up for the duck of all ducks.

it's common sense that Pacquiao has the style and speed and ferocity to cause floyd major problems, and possibly brutally knock him out. as we all know by now, floyd does not agree to fights where he can get KOed or lose. he only handpicks fights where he knows he will win over an outmatched opponent who has glaring flaws or vulnerabilities. Young strong vicious hungry and confident opponents are always dodged by floyd who makes a multitude of reasons and excuses to duck them, as he did with Cotto, Margarito, Mosley. and it's exactly the same pattern again now with Pacquiao.

Sadly, HBO will step up and protect floyd, and will not press or force him to fight Pacquiao in the fight everyone wants to see.

floyd is an absolute disgrace to boxing, HBO is selling a fraud, and this BS could have long term residiual effects on the integrity of the sport, where the public will lose confidence that boxing is not about the best facing the best anymore, it's about handpicking the safest lowest risk opponents (smart business decisions) to preserve an undefeated record.

Chad Dawson is doing exactly what floyd is doing, ducking the riskiest fights by ducking Diaconu and now Cloud to fight 40 yr olds. Berto is doing it also. Boxing will probably survive this garbage but it may never again be the same great sport we know and love, as we know it. Imagine if the floyd mayweather handpicking/ ducking mentality becomes the universal way most champions run their careers.
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You are exactly right.

And this is why MMA is DWARFING boxing in popularity right now.

You got guys like Mosley, Manny, Vazquez, Marquez, Hopkins and Cotto looking to fight the top guys everytime out.......and then you got Floyd.

A guy who steps away for over a year, claiming to be retired...and then comes out of retirement to face a guy who is much, much smaller than he is , simpley because he is the guy who arguably beat Manny last.

Floyd won't ever fight Mosley or Manny. No ****ing way..........

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Mob said: ↑

You are exactly right.

And this is why MMA is DWARFING boxing in popularity right now.

You got guys like Mosley, Manny, Vazquez, Marquez, Hopkins and Cotto looking to fight the top guys everytime out.......and then you got Floyd.

A guy who steps away for over a year, claiming to be retired...and then comes out of retirement to face a guy who is much, much smaller than he is , simpley because he is the guy who arguably beat Manny last.

Floyd won't ever fight Mosley or Manny. No ****ing way..........
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Marquez and Manny are the same size.

eze, May 30, 2009

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I stopped caring about this guy when I knew about the DLH rematch.
I pick PFB to beat everyone people want him to fight. But he just won't ever fight em. **** him.

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Mob said: ↑

You are exactly right.

And this is why MMA is DWARFING boxing in popularity right now.

You got guys like Mosley, Manny, Vazquez, Marquez, Hopkins and Cotto looking to fight the top guys everytime out.......and then you got Floyd.

A guy who steps away for over a year, claiming to be retired...and then comes out of retirement to face a guy who is much, much smaller than he is , simpley because he is the guy who arguably beat Manny last.

Floyd won't ever fight Mosley or Manny. No ****ing way..........
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I get your drift, never thought of it that way..beating the man who arguably beat the man so he doesnt have to face the man. Smart

chimba, May 30, 2009

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DUDES!!!!!

This has got to be a record to see how many different ways you can say the same thing in as many different threads.atsch

Are you guys bored - have nothing else to rap about ????

Floyd hasn't even fought JMM - July 18 2009

Yet you guys have figured out everything with absolutely no facts at all.

UN****INGBELIEVABLE:nut

dbdbdb, May 30, 2009

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Floyd haters make me laugh. Time will shut their silly mouths.

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Asking Floyd to go down to 140 is not really an issue but Floyd is too ***** to go down in weight. Floyd has a small body frame. What I believe is unfair asking Mosley to fight Pacquiao at 142. If they want to fight Mosley it should be a 147 or at a catch weight at 145. in between 147 and 140. That's fair enough since Pacquiao started his career at 106.

Anyway even if Gayweather is getting 15mil for fight Marquez doesn't mean anything. He got the bigger share because he IS the bigger draw than Marquez BUT, Gayweather is not a bigger draw than Pacquiao. He has more fan base than Gayweather. Pacquiao's fan base is not limited to Asians, there are Americans and Europeans that supports Pacquiao. He has more excuse than Pacquiao. "Pacquiao has already lost by KO.... Pacquiao has been outboxed blah blah blah. I want the bigger share because I haven't be beaten blah blah blah. Mosley is not PPV material .....with 5 loses...."

Pacquiao wants Mayweather to go down at a fair weight and wants the bigger share of the purse because Pacquiao deserves it.
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If Manny is the draw..Than he can fight a 140 pounder and make the same money right? No..its not right...Mayweather can bring big numbers in multiple fight at 147..Pac is considering Welters because of the money...Did Manny make 15 mil vs Marquez? Manny is the draw over Marquez right? No he didnt make 15 mill for Marquez..Floyis too ***** to go down to 140? Well then why dont Manny meet Floyd at 147? Your post is all crossed up pal..Good try though...:deal

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Void wants to fight Christy Martin and HBO would probably be stupid enough to pay for it.

Farmboxer, May 30, 2009

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Soriano said: ↑

Pac is not a welterweight and Floyd is. Fighting at a catchweight at l43 is but fair, IMO. :deal
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Pac fought Oscar at 147..Who wasnt a welter...Mayweather wasnt a Jr Middle..And he went to fight there...:deal

Rock, May 30, 2009

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Thread Stealer said: ↑

The same public, pre-fight negotiating **** happens frequently.

They'll fight in December. Just wait and be patient.
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Agreed.
If not December it'll be next year but it will happen.

BoxingFanNo1, May 30, 2009

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