Berto Sucks!!!!

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  1. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    :nono Cintron can move down to 47 he can still make the weight. He only moved up because of the opportunities he's been getting at 54.
     
  2. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berto does not suck, he fought the way you're supposed to fight a fighter like Urango. On that same note he is not on the level of Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, etc. He needs to get another trainer ASAP.
     
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    cintron confessed in his column that he is having a hard time making 147 limit
     
  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Berto's still a pretty good fighter, but the fact is Urango was brought in for one reason only- to make Berto look good enough to generate some more buzz and land a fight with one of the big boys of the division. The way HBO announced the fight made that much pretty clear. He won handily at the end, but last night was a case where Andre could've put on a great show and really forced the issue to make the other guys take notice. I don't think he succeeded in that.
     
  5. Beenie

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    He said in his post fight interview when asked about future fights at 47 and 54 that he's willing to fight at either weight.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    for every 5, 6 idiots theres always a smart one that pops out.
     
  7. Toopretty

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    Berto does not suck but he just has no style. He is not fluid. He gets it done but it just dont look good. He did not have to hold but it was obvious that he wanted to make the fight as easy as possible and the ref let him get away with it. Hatton fought Urango the same way. Urango is an ogre, so he is not going to complain but just continually stick to his A-B gameplan. "me club him".
     
  8. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    Wow he completly shut him out. Make Urango look like hes going to get outbox for the rest of his career... I can't beleive the stuff im earing
     
  9. venomus_p4p

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    Yes Berto does suck.
     
  10. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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    You need to watch more boxing...most boring fight....watch Klitschko vs Ibragimov or Hopkins vs Hakkar.

    PLEASE STOP THIS BULL****

    BERTO SUCK AND MOST BORING FIGHT EVER....:patsch
     
  11. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    I honestly think that Collazo was robbed against Berto.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    I'm actually going to flip the script here. For two years now (or however long it's been since Andre popped up on ESB's radar as a hot prospect transitioning into a primetime player) I've been saying the dude was green and had a LONG way to come before he'd last eight rounds with the elite at 147, let alone the championship 12. I've even been labeled a hater, IIRC, for daring to suggest that he wasn't ready (and I think this was pre-Rivera :yep).

    However -

    He's getting there. The Urango fight was extremely underwhelming and fell far short of the expectations of most in terms of fireworks. Yet Urango, a beast and credible titlist just one division lower - was never even in the fight. Did Berto get hit clean a little more than you'd like to see someone so touted get hit clean? Yeah. Did he make some "adjustment" choices that were...interesting (not in a particularly flattering way), to say the least? Sure. Factor in how comfortable he felt after quickly feeling his man out (in his own words, it was "coming too easy") and that fighting down to your level of opposition is not a trait mutually exclusive to elite potential, and you can discern a pattern going back over several fights of Berto's overall skill level - and confidence - on a steep incline.

    Warring with Collazo (a fight in which, incidentally, I felt Luis edged out a close victory which he officially got shafted out of - same way JMM was shafted out of what I perceived to be a very close win earned against Pac in the rematch - but the term "robbery" is thrown around too loosely so let's just call it a decision that just teetered over the rim of "incorrect") did wonders for Berto. Any vulnerabilities waiting to be exposed at the top level, were exposed that night - and available on video for he and his team to go back and look at. The kid's clearly dedicated to self-improvement, and to remaining undefeated. He's watching tape. He's busting his ass in the gym. He's going to get better, not worse. And he's on schedule to be in the next year or so where his nuthuggers thought he was two years back - ready to challenge (and stay very competitive with, if not beat) the elite.

    Berto should be considered a close-money fight with the Cotto-Clottey winner. And I'm someone who this time last year was saying Miguel would massacre him. Because that was true, at the time.
     
  13. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could also see this in the pace he maintained. It wasn't the kind of frenetic action he had to keep up with against Collazo, but Urango kept trudging forward, and Berto's stamina never wavered for a second. Going the distance is only going to help him down the line.

    I just wish he'd start establishing his own identity a little better. He's got fast hands, but he's not really a good combination puncher. His whole style revolves around throwing a short jab and potshotting with his uppercut, with everything else being an afterthought. He's not an accurate counterpuncher, and he'd rather fall in and grab than slip and counter. He showed flashes of being a good body puncher against Collazo, but stopped almost as soon as it started working.

    He's got to add more wrinkles if he wants to be competitive with a Clottey or a Cotto. It's why the Collazo rematch is a natural fight for Berto. It gives him a chance to start polishing his skills before bigger threats, against a fighter still good enough to press him and get his respect.
     
  14. BITCH ASS

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    :lol:

    True.
     
  15. CArealm

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    Berto is another Hatton waiting to happen, the minute Berto is left on his own he will get a beatdown.