Valero: "I Want Marquez And That So Called 'Monster' From The Philippines"

You have got to be kidding lolnut:nut.

 

You're assuming I'm saying he's bad when in reality I'm saying his resume is terrible and only your resume in boxing determines how good you are.

There are no similarities with Margarito but the attitude is identical. Both have terrible resumes and are trying to make names out of themselves using other guys then go on to fight tomato cans and get praised for it.

At this stage, being SO FAR behind compared to Pac he doesn't need just ONE major win. He needs to get at least ONE decent win in the weight division he's in, he needs to move up and make noise there, he needs to climb in P4P rankings, the guy isn't even top 20 material and he's calling out #1. By the time he gets those done Pacquiao might be long retired.

I also don't care about the people who say he shouldn't fight some of the big boys in the division he's in for a list of meaningless excuses. He NEEDS those guys to make noise, not sparring sessions and trash talks behind microphones.

 

Proved lately? Valero is a two division champ who only lacks a big name on his resume. Who cares if any fighter has accomplished more than Valero. That doesnt mean that they beat Valero. You naming some of the fighters you named that you think beat Valero underlines your hate for the guy:dead.

 

Hell no I'm not. You guys are overrating Valero like people overrated Margarito back then. Valero's defense is **** poor, suspect chin with power not yet proven as world class.

Because Pacquiao did what he did to Hatton you think this guy will?, that's ridiculous. Hatton destroys this guy in my opinion and has been there with world class fighters so his experience wipes the floor with this guy too.

It's silly how a fighter becomes a "tomato can" for a good month or two after a loss.

 

There is no hate, I'm just stating the obvious. The guy doesn't have a single major win on his resume and not even close to having a career defining fight and he's calling out the P4P#1 fighter with people picking him to beat guys like Hatton and compete with guys like JMM.

First let him prove what he can do against top class opponents then we will speak of that.

 

Valero is a savage. He's pulverized everyone on his way to winning belts at 2 weights so why shouldn't he call out anyone?

Not saying he'll win, but lesser fighters have been in the ring with JMM and Paccy in the last 3 years.

 

You seem to forget that when PAc was a champ at 130, Valero was a champ, just like Guzman was at 130, and PAc chose to fight the big 3, 7 times 4 of which I believe were at 130 rather than fight either of the two aforementioned. The excuse as to why Pac never fought the other two was money which I can understand to a certain point. This attitude on who deserves a fight with who is nonsense. Valero only needs a name opponent and a big time promoter so that fans can take notice of who Valero is..just as PAc has done. Valero's talking is just that...talk. How can you hate on Valero talking and be a Floyd fan???

 

Who's to say this wouldn't happen? The only thing I think Valero has proven convincingly is that he has scary power. Everything else about him is up in the air.

I personally think he can beat Hatton since his defense isn't very good but I wouldn't be surprised if Hatton beat him decisively. Maybe Hattons def isn't that bad but because it was against Pac, it looked like complete shite. Maybe Pac is the only fighter that could make Hatton look that bad.

The thing is, it's easy to look very good when you're up against tomato cans. But when you're up against top level opposition, things will be very different.

I'll definitely give Valero props once he beats the top opposition convincingly, but until then I wouldn't take any of these predictions to heart, too many unknowns about Valero at this point. But of course we're all entitled to our own opinions :good

 

The man is 27 Scar. He doesn't have a win over a name opponent...yet. His arrogance is his confidence. It seems you are picking inferior fighters to beat Valero because you think Valero has no wins over a name opponent that you think he lacks in getting a fight with PAc. Names ain't everything. No names come out of nowhere and beat name fighters. Valero didn't just start talking about PAc...he's been doing it since his days at 130.

 

Valero will receive no props by beating Hatton now. Like any top prospect turned champion, you can either be right or wrong about a guy. You guys keep saying Valero has to prove himself. He has been doing this...just against guys you don't recognize. He is a two division champion. He only lacks a name opponent to get the public to notice him. That is going to happen soon. Just don't tell me Valero is unproven as a fighter.

 

valero all smoke and mirrors hasnt fought any legit top 10 contender and he's calling out marquez and pac hes dellusional,

 

Again I'm not hating on Valero "talking" I'm hating on the fact that the talk is pure nonsense. When Mayweather talks he has the record/accomplishments to back it up, he was also P4P#1. Valero is nowhere close to that and he's making claims of how certain fighters are ducking him and so on. I know that's good to build up character in boxing and get fans to watch but what's more important is resume and activity.

The attitude of who "deserves" a fight with whatever is not nonsense, it's reality. If Pacquiao fights him he will go in as a HUGE favorite with probably a few loyal bunch promoting Valero to win or give him hell, that's when it becomes obvious that this fight shouldn't even happen in terms of skill level, accomplishments and experience.

For Valero to bring character he should fight some guys worth fighting then we will be talking, right now his talk means nothing and Pacquiao has FAR bigger fish to fry.

 

can any one give me the name of 1 good fighter that valero beat, pituala beat an inconsistant cruz b4 that he was just another bum with a padded record

 

I know that names aren't everything and I really don't give a damn about names as I make it clear in all of my predictions/thoughts. I'm talking about Valero based on his fighting style.

I know that Valero has been talking about Pac for a long time, with all the talks about Valero not being allowed to fight outside of the US because of some brain injury you think Pacquiao, who at the time was destroying guys like Morales/Barrera/Larrios and giving Marquez hell would pay attention to Valero?, got to be reasonable and logical.

If Valero wants it he ought to get it in the ring, talking trash will only get him certain places and people will forget about him quickly when there's no big enough fight to discuss and keep people's attention.

Right now Valero isn't in Pacquiao's league and not even close. Even in terms of styles Pacquiao could end up killing this guy.

 

No such thing as not receiving props, he will get a lot of props for beating Hatton as it would be his first major victory BY FAR. You make it sound like Valero is full of awesome wins and a win over Hatton wouldn't mean much right now. Valero doesn't have a SINGLE win worth mentioning, even if he fights Barrera and beats him now people will bring it up because there is NOTHING else to talk about.

He is a two division champion, mad respect to that, though I would like to see him fight guys worth mentioning first before saying he did prove his self. So far there's not a single win worth bragging about especially when you are constantly calling out the #1 P4P fighter one division above.