Pacquiao: "Mayweather Is Good, But Not As Good As People Think"

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  1. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    I think Floyd knows his own limitations and I think that if you listen to every single thing that comes out of Floyds mouth all you need to do is think about an insecure person.

    I have been around a lot of different characters and I can tell you now. Someone who thinks they are the best and is confident will only want to fight the guys who pose the most threat because he wants to prove that he is the top dog, i.e. Carl Froch going to America and fighting one of the best America has to offer and Knocking him out after being outboxed. But all Floyd seems to do is talk a good game and then talk his way out of fights by brainwashing us into believing that the fighter who wants to fight him is already defeated before even stepping into the ring to fight him.

    The main reason why people are on Floyds case is because the guy talks **** about every other fighter but yet he is scared to take any risks in his own weight class.

    The difference with Pacquiao is that he fought Oscar when 80% of the people on here did not give him any chance of winning so before the fight it was definitely a big risk regardless if Roach was gambling on Oscar to not make weight properly.

    He still took the risk and also he took the risk at fighting Hatton who a lot of people said would beat Pacquiao before the fight including myself due to him being a natural 140lbs and undefeated in his weight class. Because of the way Oscar was drained people were led to believe that Pac was a one hit wonder. So again it was another risk, even if you want to call it a calculated risk it was still a big gamble.

    What risks or gambles has Floyd ever taken above 140lbs and please do not tell me about Oscar De La Hoya, the part time fighter/promoter at the time. That fight was simply about the money and that is the bottom line.

    Floyd does not take risks and this is the main reason why people get pissed off with him fighting Marquez when there is guys like Mosley around who he should be fighting without a doubt.

    He claims to be the best fighter of all time but in reality take away his talent and look at his resume and it does not even compare to any of the previous all time greats.

    All he has proved is that he is the most gifted fighter of our generation but I am afraid that he is a wasted talent at this point in his career, especially occupying the 147 division for so many years without really earning any true respect because respect is respect, and the truth is the truth, you cannot fool people who are awake and not asleep. The truth is he has done things good but he has never done anything great

    If he does not step up to the plate sooner or later, he will not be able to fool the public anymore and he will have to put up or shut up.

    If Floyd was great he would not struggle against guys like Emanuel Burton, not taking anything away from Burton, he is one of my favourite fighters but Floyds face was busted up in that fight.

    He also struggled to get rid of some other guys who he should of just dominated due to the vast difference in skill level so until he fights a Mosley, Cotto, Williams, I will not give this dude any true respect.
     
  2. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    just like the guy in your avatar?
     
  3. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This applies more to Floyd. :patsch
     
  4. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Some of you diehard Pac fans love PAc to no end. You will sip on anything he says. Neither fighter is overrated. Pac has every right to say what he said about Floyd because Floyd belittled Pac first. You guys live off of everything your hero PAc says. Floyd is now overrated lol. Some point to fights Floyd struggled in. That is truly dumb.

    Pac struggled in a few fights also. Pac has 3 losses and two draws. Floyd has zero losses. Both are proven fighters. Pac's fans think that they beat a prime Barrera and past it Morales is Pac's pass to greatness...please! When Pac beats a legit fighter like Floyd,...that is when PAc will get true props from me. Pac's fights with Hussein, Sanchez, Morales, Marquez, the Barrera rematch, and even Larios show that Pac can be beat by a pure boxer, and there isn't a better pure boxer in the world than Floyd.
     
  5. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    both are awesome fighters,not as awesome as some fanboys make them out to be though,its a great matchup either way,i favour mayweather to win the fight should it happen
     
  6. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both fighters have die hard fans that overrate them to the high heavens. But that's to be expected, it's fun to invest so much in your favorite team/athlete.

    The press I think, is pretty much a toned down version of the forums with the general consensus that

    1. PBF > Pac in terms of pure boxing skills
    2. Pac > PBF (slightly) in terms of resume and achievements (in terms of names at least, with Manny having better fighters in his resume, but the state of those fighters is a matter of debate)

    I tend to agree with this so I don't think either fighter is highly overrated. But if we are talking about overrating, i'm pretty sure the mayweather clan overrates PBF, and considers everyone else shite.
     
  7. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Good post. It is this "Manny can do no wrong and Floyd is all wrong" attitude that sickens me about how both fans defend their man. I don't condone everything Floyd says just as I don't perceive PAc's comp as being the best of his generation. Name wise it could be, but when he fought them is under investigation. Does Shane deserve afight with Floyd. Floyd commenting about shane's 5 losses as if that is bad considering who he lost to was ass to say. Neither fighter is overrated, and anyone who thinks either one is slightly overrated should have their membership revoked from this site.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF is better than Manny he has him beat in most departments and the difference in class will be apparent from the opening bell. PBF by UD:deal
     
  9. bachatu

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    Coming from Manny, I think he has all the right to say this. I think he is simply saying, I've seen him fight and I'm not all that impressed. Both have flaws, but people out there make it seem like as if Mayweather is the perfect boxer and unbeatable -- there is no such thing.
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Except guts.:deal
     
  11. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the only area where the *******s and floydettes agree is that the only way this can truly be settled is in the ring. Everything else is just talk, and talk is cheap.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    the joyboys were butt-hurt with what pac had said. a fighter questioning another fighters courage? ouch! :D
     
  13. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This may be the reason why I'm not such a big PBF fan.

    Call me old fashioned, but I have a highly romantic ideal that the truly great fighters should have a ton of guts and heart.

    It may be simply because that PBF is just that good that he may never have to "leave it all in the ring" in a fight. Nevertheless, until I see that from PBF, I'll probably never think that highly of him in terms of greatness. Which isn't really his fault, but still, it's how I feel as a fan.
     
  14. viperguy

    viperguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL
    Floyd vs Oscar = 12D:deal
    Floyd vs Hatton = 10TKO:deal

    Manny vs Oscar = 8TKO:deal
    Manny vs Hatton = 2KO:deal

    :rofl
     
  15. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's your opinion and your opinion at this point can be right or wrong. The best way to settle this issue is when they both meet in the ring. I have nothing against Floyd. I only hope that he makes this fighter easier to happen. Will Floyd accept the challenge? I have my doubts at this point.