24-Hour Weigh-ins = Illegal fight ?

This hits the nail on the head for me.:deal

**After an eight week training camp, the weight the fighter RETURNS to AFTER coming off the scales (his healthy fighting weight) is absolutely the weight class the fighter should be fighting in.:yep

All this shows is that the last week or two, these guys KILL themselves to get down to an un-natural, unhealthy weight, and REHYDRATE like a mudder ****er to get BACK TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE to fight healthy.

I've read in Ring Mag articles that some of the top fighters with high $$$$$ backing actually return to a hotel room that is set up like a triage unit complete with IV's, doctors, and the whole works....just to get HEALTHY to fight!

dbdbdb- The Clottey fight that he gained back to 170+ for a WW fight was when he fought Corrales.:yep

 

This seems fair, and about all that could be done now a days to help ensure one fighter doesn't come in WAY above what the other guy does.

IMO, this should be ENFORCED. I like it.....5%.:yep

 

We should have the weight in just before entering the ring. If some smart ass plays it cool and dehydrates himself and then die, so be it. No one forced him to do it.

 

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I agree!

But then it becomes a PR-problem, because the stupid media will jump on it and in the end, it's everybody's fault, but that of fight, trainer & promoter.

Real men move UP in weight. If you're naturally in an uninteresting weight-class and you're looking for paydays, work out, get some muscle mass and fight like a man, don't cheat your way into lower weightclasses to beat up smaller guys.

 

Wasn't Cintron a Light Heavy last night? HBO's unoffical scale had him at 169 on the night!

 

Why is not a mismatch???? Because actually both fighters are doing the same ****.

 

Same day weigh ins cause brain injuries because fighters still cut as much weight as possible. Under the current rules fighters have time to rehydrate, and it's still a level playing field.

 

BINGO:good:good:good

If you enforce to strict of a cap, and then allow a fighter to fight, then you are asking for big trouble.


Biologically speaking, the brain is the first organ to be affected during dehydration, and the last to rehydrate... i.e. hangovers. This could be quite dangerous over a period of time and probably has been responsible for a number of deaths in the past.

 

PW's last fight at 160 he actually weighed 164 on fight night.

Against Margarito he was outweighed by 2 pounds...

Against Quntana2 he outweighed Carlos by 7 pounds.

Hardly the prime example of what you guys are talking about. He is just naturally skinny than a motha****a...

 

I like Gatti but his fight against Gamache was a joke...Gatti looked like King Kong compared to Gamache...That was one of the most scary knock-out ive ever seen...

 

MOST of the TIME, kind sir. There are "doors" left open though for a guy (like Clottey did against Chico in a WW fight that Clottey came into the ring at 171 lbs.!!!) who has "extreme" weight gain/loss capabilities to capatalize on a smaller weight class, because he can +/- weight better.

IMO, and like others have suggested, as long as both fighters rehydrate within a SET +/- gain % then all is fair. But when ONE fighter has a massive advatage of rehydrating to double his opponents %, we have a problem. Agree, sir?

 

That fight sucks and turns my stomach to think about it sometimes. There are many "tales"/"rumors" about that fight and it's weigh in.

I've read reports that Gatti's team member slid the front of his foot under the back of the scale as Gatti stepped on to keep him in the limit. Not only that, but Gatti was basically slammed on the scale and rushed off before Gamache's team could inspect the weight themselves. They are supposed to be allowed to do so.

**** almost killed Gamache, too tough for his own good, and stood in there and took that god awful (but hellacious:yep) combination from Gatti when he was already out on his feet. Gamache is lucky to be alive, and the good ending to the story is Manny Steward has him as one of his associate trainers on his team. (on the first Pavlik/Taylor 24/7, you can see Gamache running with Taylor, and JT turns back to the camera they ran past).