sure shot HOF's

A few to add to the list:

Tommy Hearns (sadly still active, and thus still not inducted)
James Toney
Joe Calzaghe
Michael Moorer

And yes, Mosley is a sure-fire hall of famer. The fringy guys are more like Castillo, Gatti, Marquez, Quartey, Tszyu, Hatton, Vasquez, etc.

 

Tzyu has a good shout, but Hatton? if he gets in any credibility in HOF has been firmly chucked out the window.

 

Who cares. Mosely should get in, Toney too. So should all the baseball players accused of using roids. I couldn't care less if these guys out that stuff in their bodies, that's their business.

 

Yeah but I think the complaint is it is illegal and performance enhancing

 

There are fighters with worse resumes in the IBHOF. He has a better resume and was more beloved (by the general public rather than hardcore boxing fans) than Gatti, who will get strong consideration.

 

In no order

Roy Jones Jr
Joel Casamayor
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Marquez
Manny Pacquiao
Bernand Hopkins
Glen Johnson
Evander Holyfield
Felix Trinidad
Marco Antonio Barrera
Erik Morales
Kostya Tszyu

Maybe's

Antonio Tarver
Cory Spinks
Zab Judah
Joe Calzaghe
James Toney

 

Yeah but he has never actually beaten a prime P4Per, I don't count Castillo and Tzyu, and never had fights half as exciting as Gatti. Gatti still did the sport more service than Hatton.

 

I'd say Toney and Calzaghe are sure ins.
Casamayor and Johnson are maybe's.

 

I'd move Casamayor, Tszyu, Johnson and Marquez into the 'maybe' pile. They don't seem like sure things to me. Toney, however, seems like a completely sure thing. Judah doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, and Tarver's chance probably flew out the window by losing the Dawson rematch.

 

Here's my take on that. Exactly what this **** does is unknown. MAYBE it allows them to recover better from injuries. But does it increase punching power? Technique? Make a good athlete out of some ordinary palooka? That seems to me to be, at best, debatable.

Absent any quantitative, empirical verifiable EVIDENCE that someone like Mosley would have been an ordinary fighter without it, he has to be put in.

 

Winky?

 

Yes.
Sure HOFer IMO.

 

Mayweather, Morales, Pacquiao, Barrera, Hopkins, Calzaghe for starters.

 

:nut Idiot.

 

Steroids work, and work well. They certainly give you an advantage. It's stupid to dismiss it.