Bob Arum: "Mayweather Jr. WON'T Get More Than Pacqiuao"

Exactly! I'm not saying Mayweather is a bigger attraction than Pacquiao, but if Arum truly believes Floyd is not a big draw, then someone should show him some footage of his trip to London recently, particularly his open workout at the Peacock gym!

Mayweather rightfully points out that Pacquiao is not undefeated like himself. A 50-50 split is fair for all parties. If Arum thinks Floyd will go any less than 50-50 then we all might aswell be resigned to the fact that the fight will not happen!

Arum is acting as if Pacquiao is like a De La Hoya in terms of having parity in respect of purses. That's simply not the case.

 

Arum is no idiot, and having been Floyd promoter for most of his career he knows what Floyd will and willnt go for, and he knows damn well that Floyd isnt going to take 30-35% to fight Pac. so what he is really doing is making sure that the fight isnt going to happen, which is what I have been saying all along. Arum is a smart dude, and he knows that the public will blame Floyd if the fight dont happen. the only problem with Arums plan this time around is that he bring Shane and Cotto into play, and the public dont have the hate for those fighters that they have for Floyd so selling that those guys wouldnt fight Pac is going to be hard. They should have just stuck with Floyd, and making it appear that they wanted to fight him which they clearly dont. the hate for floyd is to thick for people to take off the blinder and really see what is going on...OH Pac wants floyd in his next fight...NO Pacs next fight wont be vs Floyd, Floyd wont be ready to fight for Pac next fight. Floyd will have to take 35%, Pac is the draw..Blah blah..All that leads to the fight not happening...Roach admitted that the fight would have to be 50/50 to have a chance of being made, then he says that pac will have to get 60%. Does that really sound like they are trying to get the fight done??? To non-Floyd haters I think that its pretty clear. I have even seen some Floyd haters that understand that Pac's team dont really want this fight.

 

Arum is scared to put is guy in there with Floyd. Pacquiao is a darling to the public right now, and is Arum's golden goose but he knows that whether you like Floyd or not he is an extrmely dangerous and skilled opponent who will give Pacquiao a boxing lesson.

 

Yes, and Pac KO both fighters quicker...does that mean he's a better fighter? Im using your exact logic, basing it solely on numbers.

PBF did more numbers with DLH because DLH was a bigger attraction coming off a great win and it was considered a very even fight. On the other hand, ODLH-Pac was seen as a "circus match" because of size difference and many would be buyers felt cheated from the last ODLH ppv(PBF-ODLH).

Pac-Hatton did less numbers because Hatton was no longer undefeated...still it only did 75k less.

Throw in the Economy problem in there.

Pac KO both guys quicker because of styles, and admittedly the Oscar wasnt as good as he was for PBF.

Circumstances.

RJJ-Ruiz did more numbers than RJJ-Tito...are you saying Ruiz is a bigger attraction than Tito???

Both fights took place at a different times, under different circumstances.

 

as you are pointing out in this statement, people are of the opinion that pac deserves more and that alone is a huge reason why floyd can throw out all the numbers he wants and it still comes down to fan preference. both sides have legitimate arguments to who deserves more so 50/50 is the only way i see this happening. you cant ask the p4p #1 to settle for less when you havent even fought in a couple of years. if floyd can break 750k ppv sales against jmm then he has a strong case. if it sells less than 400k then he has no argument whatsoever.

 

RJJ/Ruiz did big numbers because it was a circus.

Put PBF in there with say a Light Heavyweight or Cruiserweight and you would get the same numbers. People want to see what will happen.

Jones PPV numbers when he was with HBO were abysmal. His only PPV successes were Ruiz (a circus fight) and Tito (PR fan base)

 

Those numbers are very misleading. Hoya Pac was seen as a circus and alot of boxing fans turned their head and called a mismatch.

Hoya Floyd was billed as an even fight with the bigger stronger more experienced Hoya being the best Floyd ever faced. They also called it the fight of the millenium and both men promised war.

Besides that one Hoya fight theres really no difference at all and Pac has been on pay per view alot more.
Add to this that most of Pacs fights were at 130 and below where they usually get no kind of following. Pac is the draw and his next fight which won't include Floyd will show this.

Anyway Floyd started this bull**** by saying he'd never agree to 50/50 purse. So he's screwed himself on this especially if he doesn't dominate the much smaller Marquez.

 

Exactly what I mean. Its the circumstances around the fight too, rather than just pure names. ODLH-Pac did low numbers in comparison because it was seen as a "circus" but in a bad way, people were protesting the fight...ODLH last big PPV where he con 2.4mil into buying was also a dissapointment to most, so he lost plenty of ppv attraction. Put Oscar on PPV vs PBF now for example, same names, different circumstances and I bet you it doesnt even make a mil.

 

Tyson-Botha does 1.9mil, Tyson-Williams does 300k. Again, same names, different circumstances....unless you're saying Botha is that much a bigger attraction than Williams.

 

Im not understand you point about 750k..Were did you pull that number out off...Pac didnt come even remotely close to those numbers with JMM. Simply doing more then Pac did against JMM will put all the excuses to bed..OH its the slow times, bullsh*t will have to stop.

the whole the media is giving Floyd JMM more attention argument is a very stupid one because it supports the thinking that Floyd is the bigger draw.

750k my ass, that is double what Pac did vs JMMatsch

HBO thinks that they will be looking at 500 to 550k on this fight, which once again would have by far outdone what Pac did vs the same guy for the third time.

 

750 should not be out of the question for the self proclaimed cash cow. there are a good number of fighters who can sell half million so the cash cow should be able to sell three quarter million. especially against the #2 p4p in the sport (he has a whole country behind him, remember?).

 

Thats such an idiotic statement. So Ruiz is a bigger attraction than Tito? Tyson-Botha does 1.9mil, Tyson-Williams does 300k, Botha is an attraction worth 1.6mil?

 

Pac fought JMM when Pac was p4p #2 before he became mainstream by fighting DLH & Hatton. PBF is gonna fight JMM after JMM has became bigger, at WW, after PBF became mainstream by fighting DLH-Hatton with 24/7 for this fight too?

How is that a fair comparison?

 

Bob will offer a 50/50 split, which is fair. But he will never agree to 60/40 in Floyds favor.