Bob Arum: "Mayweather Jr. WON'T Get More Than Pacqiuao"

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whenever a promoter campaigns and shouts vehemently like Arum is doing about Mayweather not getting 50%, you know that Arum is setting up a scenario where Pacquiao can get just that.....50%......

    Arum is no fool......he knows that the figures show that Mayweather is a better PPV attraction.


    Arum is just making the noise now to set Mayweather up to concede to a 50/50 split!
     
  2. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn everytime I see one of you posts I just cant help but wonder..Were the **** did you find that avatar..Those are what every womens ass shoud look like:admin
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  4. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    People should stop arguing on who is the draw. That's bullcrap . . . because they are both draws. :deal

    The right arguement should be . . . who's the man rightnow. :yep

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  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont agree. I dont think that Arum wants that fight period. We can say what we want, but the truth is Arum wouldnt make the fights with Margo and Cotto when floyd asked and while he was promoting Floyd. Now I think that somewere along the way that Arum wants to put Pac in the ring with Floyd but he has other fights that he thinks will make alot of money first. Why not just say 50/50 lets fight, if Floyd dont take it then he is the fool or the bad guy. No one will excuse Floyd for not taking a 50/50 fight.

    And yes Arum knows that Pac isnt the draw which is the reason that his company is yet to release the Pac hatton numbers. Even though will all know the ballpark. I saw a article that said there are anywere from 775k to 825k, but no offical release from Arum.
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no 50/50 fight or stfu.
     
  7. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    50-50 split is ok. probably 52-48 max in pacs favor if this fight pushes through.

    while it may be argued that indeed pbf is the bigger draw, fans should realize that they are living in 2009 and not 2007 wherein pbf was the consensus p4p king. lets not live in the past, pac is the acknowledged top dog now, businesswise. that is why we have pacs face dominating the sports boxing news.

    in the last 2 years, pac has grown to be a bigger global brand, bigger than mayweather.
    in the same manner that you do not reward athletes based on their performance 2 years ago, fighters are gauged based on their current status/performance and a dip in the perceived market value of pbf is understandable given the fact that he has been out of the public eye.

    think mickey rourke guys. was hot before, was out of the public eye then semi hot again but will never reclaim the acclaim he had before.

    athletes and actors have much in common you see. some have longer shelf life than others.

    given that pac is the hotter commodity now, it is compelling argument that he should have the bigger share if ever but not way bigger. 50-50 or 55-45 is ok with me. pbf's decision to come back and fight is a good marketing move especially if he wins in convincing fashion.

    but his decision to come back against a much smaller man will work against his favor. and no amounto of argument can change the fact. sure he is going up against the pfp no. 2, but the guy is truly 2 weights below him.

    why not fight a true welterweight, even a b level welterweight will be a better gauge. we did not see tyson fighting in cruiserweight or light heavyweight when he came back did we?

    which brings me back to a sad situation for me and believe me i am a huge fan of pbf skills. how can fans idolize a guy who comes back to fight a boxer 2 fights lower than him and shoots his mouth off as if he is still the king of the hill.

    i find it actually perplexing why some nuthuggers of his can still defend him that way. don't look at us *******s for inspiration because we skew pac in public and make fun of him everyday. but he still beats opponent in sterling fashion and I cannot for the love of God remember him going up against a fighter older and smaller in size.

    but pbf does it and some fans think its ok and justified. i mean, come on. we all know his retirement was a ruse and even pbf floydettes here were sure that he was coming back. but come back against jmm?

    peace.
     
  8. digger

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    This will depend on the outcome of PBF - JMM fight, if Money will KO JMM then
    he has the right to brag for piece of the pie.
     
  9. digger

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    wel said man :good
     
  10. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    50/50 or not I don't care . . . STFU . . . better if there's NO FIGHT at all :deal
     
  11. Danny_Rand

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    Uhhh Juan Manuel Marquez? Then again most *******s have selective memory when it comes to Marquez, that ass whipping was traumatic wasnt it?

    Oh and Pac isnt the bigger global brand then Mayweather. Atleast not where money is concerned, he may be bigger in Asia, but none of those Asian countries are gonna be putting up the big bucks, in the West where it matters, Floyd is far more popular.
     
  12. Powerman55

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    None of the other numbers matter. The only thing that matters are the numbers for Floyd - Marquez. And the numbers for Pac and his next opponent.

    Floyd retired 2 years ago. It's not maternity leave...you can't just come back where you left off. He has to earn the number 1 spot back.
     
  13. scatterbrain

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    let me read it again.

    pac is bigger than JMM?

    their practically the same height, same built, same weight. hohoho. let's see what we have here. lets make a poll on that. i will put a thread. so you are saying that pac is bigger than jmm like 2 divisions bigger just like 147 pbf is fighting 135 jmm.

    global brand, lets make a check.

    usa-pbf>pac
    asia-pac
    europe-who knows but with so many filipinos and other asians and the way he knocked out hatton, will bet that he is bigger.

    australia-definitely pac.
    africa-he beat ledwaba so i guess he is known there.
    arctic/antarctic-who cares.

    sure the west is where the big bucks is. but how many american fighters are there in the top 10 or even top 20 p4p?

    as a nuthugger, your way up in pbfs ass.

    so pac is bigger than jmm. and also bigger than pbf in some aspects right.

    so pbf=jmm in terms of size and weight. why are they fighting at a catchweight again?

    simply, you cannot think straight when it comes to pbf. your a floydette, make sure you bring your pompoms with you.
     
  14. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Manny has gained an ENOURMOUS amount of popularity from his last two action packed wins. Alot of people (including me) didn't buy the DLH fight because they thought it was a total joke mismatch.

    We'll see how much all this exposure Manny's been having effects the PPV in his next fight.

    And we'll see how much Floyd's stock has risen/dropped in the Marquez fight.

    Floyd had his time in the limelight 2 years ago. There's a new king in town - he hasn't stolen your crown he earned it and THEN SOME. If Floyd wants to be number one he has to earn it back.
     
  15. Danny_Rand

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    Yes, as evidence by the fact that Pac has been able to comfortably make 147.
    Mayweather is more known in Europe then Pacquiao I assure you. Whether or not Pac is bigger in Asia means little. Hell isnt it show free in the philipines when Pac fights or something? How much money is HBO making off that? :rofl

    I never said Floyd wasnt bigger then Pac and JMM, quite clearly he is. Im saying that the size difference isnt as pronounced as you want it to be. Its barely there. But its there. And the reason why Mayweather is fighting at a catchweight so that JMM won have to move up a full 2 weight classes.