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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jnr middle?

    Supermiddle...?

    Cruiser...?

    Only fighters who have fought there since those divisions inception.

    Ill have a go

    Jnr middle

    1) Hearns
    2) McCallum
    3) Jackson
    4) Benvenuti
    5) Norris

    Probably Benitez, Kalule and De la Hoya deserve a mention. Technically Griffith aswell actually.


    Supermiddle...

    1) Roy Jones
    2) Joe Calzaghe
    3) James Toney
    4) Chris Eubank?
    5) Michael Nunn?

    Collins and Ottke deserve a shout also.

    1) Holyfield
    2) Gomez
    3) Qawi
    4) Jirov
    5) Nelson

    Im sure Toney should be in there somewhere but I got him at supermiddle for now.
     
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  2. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jr. Middle:
    1. Leonard
    2. Hearns
    3. McCallum
    4. Benvenuti
    5. Jackson

    Super middle:
    1. Calzaghe
    2. Jones
    3. Toney
    4. Collins
    5. Liles

    Cruiser:
    1. Holyfield
    2. Qawi
    3. Gomez
    4. Haye
    5. Toney
     
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  3. albinored

    albinored Active Member Full Member

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    ...meaningless ratings...meaningless divisions....
     
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  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the input.
     
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  5. Flea Man

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    WhatARock your lists are pretty definitive IMO :good
     
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  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    trinidad over norris
     
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  8. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    how about we take the past heavyweights who fought under 200 lbs as cruisers? In that case:

    1. Louis
    2. Dempsey
    3. Marciano
    4. Holyfield
    5. Johnson
     
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  9. Flea Man

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    Trinidad over Norris Asero? I don't think that's right mate, what are you reasons????
     
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  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Jr. Middle:
    1. McCallum
    2. Hearns
    3. Jackson
    4. Benvenuti
    5. Norris

    Super middle:
    1. Jones
    2. Toney
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Eubank
    5. Benn

    Cruiser:
    1. Holyfield
    2. Qawi
    3. Gomez
    4. Haye
    5. Toney
     
    GPater11093, Jun 2, 2009
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  11. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I'd take him to KO Norris personally. That glass jaw of Terry's doesn't inspire much confidence in hypothetical matchups with punchers.
     
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  12. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What am I missing with Gomez? How about Carlos De Leon, considering how shallow the division's history is?

    Having just recently viewed footage of him, I'd say Ralph Dupas is clearly among the best 154 pounders I've seen on film. Will be back later in the day to expand.
     
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  13. DINAMITA

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    Toney most definitely beats Calzaghe at supermiddle. JT would have a field day with Calzaghe's sloppy defence.
     
    DINAMITA, Jun 2, 2009
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  14. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Dupas???? Please do expand Pea, not heard much on him to be honest.



    And I agree that Trinidad COULD spark Norris.....but don't you think Norris could just as easily outbox and put the hurt on Tito???

    I'd pick Norris over more 'Boxers'....but Trinidad over more 'punchers', but that's an obvious fact that most would agree with anyway :good
     
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  15. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Imagine a Welterweight version of Willie Pep and Orlando Canizales's offspring. That's what Dupas reminded me of in his shutout masterclass of Gil Turner that I watched a highlight of earlier today. Amazing footwork and angle fighter, beautiful boxer.
     
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