How will history view the current light heavyweight "lineal situation"?

I'm going to guess that the Jones lineage will be the more accepted one. Even though the true lineage belongs to DM, Gonzales, and Erdei, it was Jones, Tarver, Hopkins, and Calzaghe who were pretty much universally regarded as the #1 fighter in the division during their reign as champion, which is really the most important thing.

That could change depending on what Erdei does. With Calzaghe retired, the "popular lineage" no longer exists, so if Dawson (or whoever is seen as the top guy at 175 in the next few years) gets a fight with Erdei, then the winner will have both the true lineage and universal recognition as the #1 fighter at the weight, thus solving this whole situation.

 

the true lineage is DMs lineage

but Jones was the better fighter should he be punished for not seking lineage

 

People make it up as they go along, so Jones will always be considered a 35 time Light Heavyweight champion, or whatever it was......

Erdei is the Champion, Jones a title holder and for a period of time the #1 contender.

 

Shame Jones and Dariuzs didn't fight. Although I think it probably would've looked a lot like the Ruiz fight (although Michalewski was far better. He was no Erdei judging from what I've seen)


Erdei is absolutely God awful. Tavoris Cloud, the only really exciting guy left, is not fighting very regularly at all. Chad Dawson is moving DOWN the division is so poor, it's like 154 about 16 months ago.

 

But that is not the point; I would agree he is not the best 175lber ever but Erdei won THE Championship, continues to fight at 175, and has yet to lose, thus is the champ.

People lack patience now a days, always wanting quick fixes, when things do not go their way.

Erdei is Champ, but boxing continues despite this.

RJJ for what ever reason choose not to fight Michalczewski and thus never had the chance to fight for the Light Heavyweight Championship of the World.

That is Roy Jr's fault, not Erdei's.

 

funny to think that jones was undisputed but not lineal...DM vacated some of his titles

 

The only way for DM to lose the lineal belt was to either retire or lose.


Just because Jones unify the titles, didnt make him lineal. Same thing with Mike Tyson in the 80's. He didnt become the man until he blasted Spinks out.

 

we don't have to go that far back. juan manuel marquez became the defacto lineal champion at 135 when he beat casamayor. who did not lose his title in the ring, rather to politics. he cemented it when he beat diaz

 

Michael Spinks (1983-Sep. 1985, vacates title).
Virgil Hill (1996 - 1997)
Dariusz Michalczewski (1997-2003)
Julio Cesar Gonzalez (2003-2004)
Zsolt Erdei (2004-present)

That's the current lineal line.

 

ok got you but surely a top level fighter of Jones calibre should lookfor linearship

Following my method of establishing Linearship (the Ring number 1 fighting the Number 2) DM got it. I cant remember who he beat for it im sure someone will help me out here.

So Jones did unify the titles but DM was still linear champ and as for saying he had a more impressive reign thats like someone claiming Sam langford as the LHW champion on his impressive record

 

Does anyone know the real reason behind RJJ/DM never happening?