So who is the real WBA Heavyweight Champion: Valuev or Chagaev?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JabCross727, Jun 4, 2009.


  1. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So we have multiple belt holders according to the WBA. This is not in the sense of super, regular, and interim, but there is apparently another title known as champion in recess.

    We all know that Ruslan Chagaev defeated Nikolai Valuev for the WBA championship nearly two years ago by majority decision. Since then, he has fought only a couple of times and on three separate occasions, has postponed or backed out of rematches with Valuev. These were all due to injury or sickness.

    In any event, we still have Valuev and Chagaev dueling out their legitimate claim to the title. So who do we really recognize as the champ?

    We have Valuev who is challenging the man who beat him but Chagaev, for all intensive purposes, is unable or unwilling to give his rival a shot.

    Vote and comment.
     
    JabCross727, Jun 4, 2009
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  2. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Who cares?

    Both these frauds could retire and noone would give a ****!

    All that matters are the Klits and Haye.
     
    Tuffnutz, Jun 4, 2009
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  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Chagaev. Valuev shouldn't even be considered a champion at all, he lost to Ruiz twice, Holyfield, Donald and Chagaev.
     
    Scar, Jun 4, 2009
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  4. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :lol:
     
    Tuffnutz, Jun 4, 2009
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  5. AVFCMagicMan

    AVFCMagicMan Guest

    They may aswell crown Ronald McDonald the WBA Champion
     
    AVFCMagicMan, Jun 4, 2009
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  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Listen, there is no such thing as the WBA HWT title like there was not a CW title when you had three guys holding it. valuev and Chagaev are highly rated by that Commission which is still to have the one titlist and Champion, that's my take on the subject.
     
    Dorfmeister, Jun 4, 2009
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  7. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    Can they not just strip Valuev and Chagev of whatever portion of the WBA title they have?

    Please.
     
    safc1990, Jun 4, 2009
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  8. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Who cares?
     
    catasyou, Jun 4, 2009
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  9. arm chicken

    arm chicken Active Member Full Member

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    separating the belt by taking the belt apart in peices only proves that the belt can also die out , so if a boxer doesnt take it by beating a champion .
     
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  10. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    this is incredible but does that mean that the winner of valuev-chagev would of been the unified wba champion?
     
    Vantage_West, Jun 4, 2009
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  11. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    oh yeah the wba cruiserwieght fiasco totally forgot about that.
    who was it?
    hill had normal belt
    mormck super champ
    and who had interim?
     
    Vantage_West, Jun 4, 2009
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  12. Euxinis

    Euxinis alien Full Member

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    and to Bidenko :bbb

    WBA should be banned forever. too bad it's the oldest organization...
     
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  13. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They should be called 'Joint Don King Fraudulent Champions'
     
    markclow, Jun 4, 2009
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