Wlad Chagaev is better for the division than Wlad Haye

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  1. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another all important unification fight that reduces the amount of heavyweight titles and increases the credibility of the man holding them..........,

    I think this fight also makes the winner a *must fight* for Valuev in the future............ After the winner of Wlad Chag faces Povetkin in October or so, I think the winner of Ruiz Valuev will then (ought to ) then face the Chag Wlad /Povetkin winner.........


    If you ask me, Wlad vs Chagaev is the best, most beneficail fight that can possibly be made................MAKE IT HAPPEN! :good

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    David WHO????????
     
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  2. marciano1952

    marciano1952 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree
     
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  3. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    same here
     
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  4. 11player

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    Wlad vs Chagaev is a big fight, RING, IBF, WBO, WBA, IBO on the line, but it may be a boring one for the fans as it should be a tatical fight.

    Wlad vs Haye is also a big fight, exciting for the fans bc both come up the ring to flat people down, but for the division it's just a good defense of a belt against a high contender.

    I would love to watch both of these and am crossing my fingers to having Wlad vs Chagaev done for june 20th. Just hope Wlad doesn't opt to wait for Haye and risk having another postponement and probably the fight falling apart for good. Better just leave it for later.

    If Wlad can't get a fight with Chagaev, then Valuev is as good an option, and Dimitrenko, Meehan, K. Johnson are good opponents also.
     
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  5. Fire1

    Fire1 Active Member Full Member

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    completely agree!!!

    haye should earn the right to fight for the belt...

    if haye is as good and fearless as all of his fans claim, why doesnt he fight povetkin or atleast arreola, and if he kos either of those guys then yeah he is the best up and coming HW..

    UFC is going to dominate boxing very soon if the best fighters dont start to fight the best fighters for now on..

    the ufc is based off of one champ and one real #1 legit top contender, and the only way he is the #1 contender is to beat the 2nd best contender.. boxing is ALL about money and boxers are all about money and I have no doubt at all ufc will take over if this doest change immediatly...

    i watched ufc 98 in a packed huge resteraunt and im still a fan of boxing yet even big boxing events now are less cared about than small ufc cards..

    the cards in ufc are better b/c the fighters fight for the belt and to be the best not for money
     
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  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    so would have wlad have to win both of the WBA titles to considered it a true unification of the titles? :)
     
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  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    take a look at chagaevs record before he fought John Ruiz....tell me what the hell he did to deserve a shot of Ruiz title...chagaev fested on guys who werent even monte barret caliber......
     
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  8. Relentless

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    stupid, you guys should be hoping the klit-haye fight is rescheduled, a haye fight is bigger for waldo, more money, more recognition, better fighter.

    but as always you klitkoks only want wlad to fight the easiest fights.
     
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  9. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chagaev sucks now, and is in probably worse medical condition than Haye. I would of love to have seen Chagaev of 07 fight Wlad, now the fight has little to no interest to me. Chagaev dont even have a belt anymore, it would make more sense for Valuev to fight Wlad.
     
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  10. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I understand it, Chag, having never had his title taken in the ring, is the predominant WBA titleholder and has more of a claim to it than Valuev does.......at least, that's how I interpret that whole thing.


    I guess that since Bernd Bonte said that Chag Wlad is not yet a done deal, or something to that effect, that would imply that Chag and his promoter, Kohl, are at least in talks over a fight with Wlad.........and that is more than I thought they'd ever do... Unless they are merely acting as fi they want the fight, then get intentionally unreasonable in order to shoot the whole thing down.

    Chagaev, as well as being an undefeated title holder, also is as good moving, skilled fighter who may end up giving Wlad more of a test than Haye would have.

    Unification with Chagaev should be what happens. I hope they are working like hell on getting this fight agreed upon and signed........................just over two weeks away,too. Its the best possible fight to be made, if you are concerned about cleaning out the divsion and have a man for everyone to aim for.
     
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  11. Fire1

    Fire1 Active Member Full Member

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    what a surprise a brit thinks he should fight and wait even more for loudmouth haye

    loudmouth haye will get crushed whenever he faces wlad.. wlad fans in no way shape or form fear loudmouth haye.... look at any boxing experts opinion on the subject and they think wlad will ko haye why would we be afraid of that loudmouth
     
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  12. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    @ least the guys a HW Champ.
     
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  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He would be stripped before a Wlad fight goes down.

    You guys are so out of it on this whole "Unification" business. It won't happen.
     
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  14. SAS2

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    totally agree. totally.
     
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  15. Relentless

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    you can call him champ all you want.
     
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