Is Kostya Tszyu ATG

no.He doesn't belong in the top 100 fighters ever,so he is not an All-time Great.

 

i don't think so IMO

 

He is a Hall of Famer but not and All time great.

 

To all these Nay sayers that think there F-Ing experts. I will make it simple so you can understand it.

Top 3 Fighters in Each division.

Heavyweight
Ali ATG YES
Louis ATG YES
Holmes ATG YES

Light Heavyweight
Moore ATG YES
Tunney ATG YES
Jones Jr ATG YES

Super Middleweight
Calzaghe ATG YES
Benn ATG YES
Eubank ATG YES

Middleweight
Monzon ATG YES
Hagler ATG YES
Greb ATG YES

Light Middleweight
Hearns ATG YES
Norris ATG YES
Benitez ATG YES

Welterweight
Robinson ATG YES
Leonard ATG YES
Whitaker ATG YES

Junior Welterweight
Pryor ATG YES
Chavez ATG YES
Tszyu ATG Some guys in here think NO WTF is that about. Get a Clue.

Lightweight
Duran ATG YES
Williams ATG YES
Ortiz ATG YES

Super Featherweight
Elorde ATG YES
Mayweather ATG YES
Pacquiao ATG YES

Featherweight
Pep ATG YES
Saldivar ATG YES
Sanchez ATg YES

Now i could go on but you think because Tszyu didnt fight anyone notable that he doesnt deserve ATG status.

In my opinion this board has a North American Bais that is just a sheer ****ing Joke.

I tell you what imagine if Tszyu fought all of his title fights in say Australia and not 15 out 18 of his title fights in America.

Lennox Lewis is got the same sort of record and fought the same amount of title fights in America.

Yet everyone on this board has Lewis as a ATG even me.

You know what id like to see Floyd Mayweather fight 85% of his title shots in England.

Sweet Pea i single you out because someone with your knowledge of this sport should know better. You my friend have always brought Tszyu down yet with out him in the division anymore what does 140 look like now. And you thought it was a weak division when Tszyu ruled it for 10 years solid.


PLEASE. ITS A F_ING JOKE.

Sorry to the Mods but its a Joke. How they the fans discredit someone like Tszyu.

 

Here is a list of other so called Great at the same stage of there so called great careers.

Tszyu
4th Pro fight
Opponent: Juan Laporte (37-12-0) At the time
Was a former WBC Featherweight Champion.
3 Fights before the Tszyu fight he had lost a close close fight to the Great
Azumah Nelson.

Tszyu schooled him in 10 rounds not losing a round. In his 4th Pro fight.

What was say
These so called ATG Greats doing at the same piont in there Pro careers.


Oscar Dela Hoya.
Curtis Strong (14-6-2) got KO'd in the 4th round by Oscar.

Floyd Mayweather
Edgar Ayala (0-0-0) got TKO'd in the 2nd round by PBF.

Aaron Pryor
Nick Wills (0-5-0) got Ko'd bad in the 1st round.

Did you want more.

What was other fighters doing in there careers when Tszyu had his first title fight.
Tszyu 14th Pro fight For Ibf title against Jake the Snake Rodriguez who he stopped in the 6th round.

What was say

Roberto Duran
Serafin Garcia (10-28-6) Roberto stopped Garcia in the 5th.

Shane Mosley
Mauro Gutierrez (48-21-6) Shane stopped him in the 9th.

Antonio Cervantes
Jose Godoy (0-1-0) Cervantes won on PTS in 6 rounds.

So next time people go Tszyu didnt fight anyone or he lost to such and such.

He never had a decent win over anyone with a big name.

Well i say this look at how many time he fought better oppisition through out his whole career not just his title fights.

 

I want to say yes, but if I were making a top 100 ATG list I doubt he would even be on it.

Hes more top 125 for me.

 

yes. Any ******s who says no should die in a way of rapetodeath.

 

I think he just makes it at this point in time. Some great and dominating wins and excellent to watch.

 

KT rapes Pryor. No way you can deny he's an ATG if you have eyes and you've seen his early fights. Unless you're ******ed.

 

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:good

 

Tszyu was very clever not stwitching to HBO,

Showtime had a draft of average light Welters, he was their showpeice fighter.

He would have been an average Joe on HBO, never PPV or Marquee.

Good Marketing creates persception......great way to build an aura

 

Yes.
Lower echalon but yes.

 

not overall all-time great, top 5 jr. welters of all-time.....yes, but

I actually have hatton ahead of tszyu just imo. people will say i'm crazy....

but look at the 2 resumes.

 

i consider my top 130 as ATG....i even consider tapia as an ATG

even the top 130th ATG sometimes makes the top 100 list by some writers or organization

 

Here's a challenge for you.

More than half of Zoo's professional contests were world title fights.

His opponent's combined records at the time he fought them, from his pro debut through to the Hatton fight, are:

(wins-losses-draws)
1109-132-28

So over his entire career, (not just his title fights) his average opponent's record looked something like:

34-4-1

If his resume is such a piece of ****, then you should have no problem finding plenty of other fighters who can beat the hell out of him in either of those categories.

The combined record of Tszyu's FIRST FIVE pro opponents when he fought them?

88-37-1

He didn't feast on bums. He beat the guys who were in front of them, and they were never less than solid fighters.

% of Career spent fighting for recognized world title - right up there.

Skill set - right up there.

Lack of record padding - Almost unmatched in the modern era.

Defining fights - Sadly lacking.

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