Rank them 1-5...Benn, Jackson, Norris, Eubank and McClellan

Very good question and point. I must admit this is a tough one it really is however when I am ranking them like I said it is not a match up of how they would have done against but their relative greatness based on their career and level of competition. Chris ended up fighting the best in the UK at his peak and after his peak but there was a lot of crap he ended up defending his WBO title against. I think I can envisage them all beating Norris. Nigel Benn's wins in America as Doug De Wit and Iran Barkley, the way he came back from adversity and relearned his craft after being beaten by Watson and the way he came back after losing the 1st Eubank fight I cannot speak highly enough off.

 

Yeah I fully understand, however if we are basing this overall, which includes records, then Watson is last for me. If it was based on ability then he would be higher without a doubt, because he is, alongside Graham, the most talented British fighter never to have won a world title.

 

I agree with you about Michael Watson but not Graham who for me has always been grossly overrated by the Brits.

 

he did very well against mccallum though, and was avoided by some good fighters. i do agree with you that he is overrated, but as the inventor of the sheffield style i am grateful to him

 

Graham did much better than Watson against McCallum

 

1 Eubank
2 Norris
3 Benn
4 Jackson
5 McClellan

 

Fleaman(note that I am calling you by your proper name). First of all I was reviewing the Arguello versus Azumah Nelson post and feel that we both let ourselves down as regards the insults that we let fly. Therefore for my part in that I apologise though not for my views on the outcome. I guess we both know our boxing but no need to get to that level.

Personally I was never that sold on Graham who I felt was grossly overrated and I may be biased towards Watson because we used the same gym when I was an amateur.

I am not a fan of the Sheffield Ingle mob but each to their own. I did appreciate Naz's uniqueness though.Shame Naz fell out of love with the game. Imagine had he stayed true to his craft and contests such as a Barrera rematch, Pacman, Marquez and Morales.

I am interested in your view about some upcoming matches such as Cotto versus Clottey. I am uncharacteristically sitting on the fence in that one as I love both guys but I do think how it plays out will tell us accurately where Cotto is now in a way the Jennings fight never could.

PBF versus Marquez. I think PBF will win clearly and decisively but in my honest opinion will be a more difficult fight than PBF versus Pacman should it ever happen

 

Fair play Olu. For the first few pages you made some very valid comments, there's no reason for us to argue (even over the internet!!!)

Ummm....I think Clottey is strong as a bull, but as long as Cotto is not too disturbed from the Marg fight (I think knowing Marg may have cheated will boost his confidence somewhat) then he should be fine. Clottey doesn't have a high workrate, so I think Cotto will win a decision. Good competitive fight though.

Also, I think Floyd will stop Marquez. Floyd is a big guy, even though he started at 130 lbs, and I can't see him leaning down for Marquez to land his famous right uppercut. I'm rooting for Marquez all the way, but I think he will be less suited to the higher weights then Pac.

I think Pac can cause Floyd all kinds of problems for Floyd early on with his workrate, but once FLoyd figures him out he will be teeing up on him in the late rounds, forcing Freddie Roach to pull his man out.

IN MY OPINION!

Again, you've shown yourself to be a cool guy by saying yourself you noticed how you were being rude (AND I ADMIT THAT I WAS AS WELL) so, let's move on from here and get back to what we do best; DISCUSSING BOXING :good

 

And also, I'm much more of a fan of Waton than Graham's....I actually think he had the best skills out of all five of em (Collins, EUbank, Benn, Graham) although I rate Eubank as the toughest H2H out of all of them. His awkwardness, punching power (very underrated in my opinion) and granite chin make him a formidable opponent for even the best MW's of all time IMO.

 

Thanks Fleaman. I find your analysis very interesting as regards PBF versus Pacman. In fact beacuse it is very much along the lines of what my friend Azumah 1 told me on the telephone a few weeks back. In my opinion I think there is every chance PBF works him out even quicker. I cannot get out of mind the that Morales pretty much dominated Pacman outboxing him and outfighting him in their 1st fight and that Marquez with his technical ability pretty much was able to outbox him.

I agree that PBF will stop Marquez though I also think there is a chance he lasts the distance. Pacman I believe definitely gets stopped.

 

You know what I think you are spot on about Mickey Watson's skills.However as you know skills are not all in this great game I think Eubank's mental attitude and fortitude have to be commended as well. Sometimes fighter A might have more skills, power etc but Fighter B may just be the better fighting man.

Also as for Nelson versus Arguello the truth is we will never really know though if we could get them to have a contest both at their best I know it is one I would want to watch that is for sure.

 

Fair play Olu, you will be a good contributor to this forum :good

However, don't forget that Pac has become much more well-rounded since the first time he fought El Terrible, as he was basically one-handed.

 

It is a fact that Pac is definitely better rounded as a fighter now. His victory of Dangerous David Diaz was like an epiphany. Not that he won but the manner in which he won stylistically. Since then we have seen what he did to ODLH and Hatton. Personally I don't buy the line from some that ODLH was shot. Sure he was past his best but I think he vcould not handle the southpaw stance and speed of Pacman. Speed has always troubled ODLH in my opinion. For me the key is the 2nd Marquez fight where he was not so scintillating makes me believe that he still has problems with technical boxers.

 

Another moronic post questioning without criteria...

What are the criteria for this? McClellan obviously greater than Jackson H2H at 160. But LB4LB, I pick Julian going away...

Why are there so many poorly worded inquiries on this forum?