Bert Sugar: "Manny Pacquiao is the best Southpaw of All Time"

Very true. He's fine for talking about "the good old days", but seriously, he's way off with current boxing. *******'s will use anyone's opinion that favors Pac I think though!

 

Again, noone is doubting his knowledge of the sport and its history, they're doubting his opinions. You can be the most knowledgable person in the world on a subject and still have illogical personal opinions of it. You don't need to know everything about the sport's history to know that Sugar is talking out of his ass when he puts guys like Gene Tunney and Ezzard Charles in his top 10 HW list, or puts together a top 100 like the one presented earlier in this thread.

 

Exactly. This guy Pea is always in his high horse. Don't bother.

 

Sugar has a vast amount of boxing knowledge in that head of his... but what thing he's always been **** at is ranking fighters... just take a look at that top 100 fighters of all time list and you'll see how far off the man is from the mark.

 

fair enough but i have seen many peoples atg lists and i have yet to see one that didnt have a few that i thought were ridiculous. if you can point me to the correct list i would appreciate it.

 

There's really no "correct" list per se, as everyone has different opinions, but Sugar's list is hardly even logical. You'll find many posters on this site (particularly the classic section) with better lists. Consult the poster sweet_scientist, as I know he has one.

 

i understand its subjective. in your opinion, what makes sweet_scientists list more worthy of consideration than berts?

 

Well, at least he doesn't rank Whitaker (arguably the greatest lightweight of all time with Duran, Leonard and couple more) at the 48 th spot and Hagler (arguably the greatest middleweight of all time) at the 47 th....

 

so you think it should be the other way because?

 

A little bold, but by no means ridiculous.

 

Buddy, you asked for top 100 and one of my pal from the classic section suggested sweet_scientist's, whose list is pretty decent according to many posters of the classic section myself included. And those very same posters also acknowledged Berts Sugar's list as being one the worst list EVER.

 

This looks more like his previous version of the top 100 - I'm pretty sure he elevated Mike Tyson much higher in a more recent version of the list, I know he's published at least two versions of the book...

 

i understand what you are posting. what i am looking for is a an argument with enough weight to sway me one way or the other. we all have our opinions but you seem to be pretty sure on your superiotity of pics over a a very schooled man and i want to know what you know and i dont.

 

Ridiculously bad. And Manny the best southpaw? Pacman isn't as good as Whitaker or Hagler in my view.