TOP 10 Welterweights of all time

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    wow, great avatar jt
     
  2. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    1 Ray Robinson
    2 Ray Leonard
    3 Emile Griffith
    4 Mickey Walker
    5 Carmen Basilio
    6 Thomas Hearns
    7 Jose Napoles
    8 Kid Gavilan
    9 Wilfred Benitez
    10 Tommy Ryan

    Honorable mention: Jack Britton, Pipino Cuevas, Oscar DeLaHoya, Mike Gibbons, Billy Graham, Harry Lewis, Ted Kid Lewis, Felix Trinidad, Holman Williams

    NOTE: I rate Barney Ross, Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran, Pernell Whitaker and Shane Mosley at 135
     
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    Cheers champ, don't mind it meself. McGrain has been doing some incredible avatar work of late i noticed.
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Better than Chavez, PBF, Nelson I doubt it. I may give him the nod over Brian Mitchell.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i thought Griffith did ok he obviously wasnt in top form but he want bad
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    Nelson? Are you kidding me? Arguello beat a better assortment at 130 than your boy ever did and never got beaten there to boot. Fenech flogged the **** out of Azumah in their first fight too. Arguello was never whupped like this at 130.

    Nelson is a great great fighter but he steps back in line whenit comes to Arguello.
     
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    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good luck convincing him John...It was either Olu or his mate (or quite possibly his alias) Azumah1 who thought Nelson won that fight 116-112. :lol:
     
  8. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ted Kid Lewis is a great fighter, from the footage I seen(Thinks SS) I was impress, He can punch, he can box, great jab, He relly destory Basham in all the footage I seen, He relly had it all. I think he should be in the top ten, Just wish his wars with Britton would be easy to get is all lol. Not sure if there is film out there on em.
     
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    Which says it all really, and explains why they will never ever carry weight on this forum.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    DMT that is one of your best lists. My list is very similiar. However I do not think Mickey Walker belongs anywhere near 5. He lost to some ordinary men at 147lb I believe, and became a much better fighter later on.

    My list

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Sugar Ray Leonard
    3. Jose Napoles
    4. Tommy Heanrs
    5. Emile Griffith
    6. Joe Walcott
    7. Kid Gavilan
    8. Luis Rodriguez
    9. Henry Armstrong
    10. Charley Burley
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Ive seen there fights. I scored two of them in favor of Emile Griffith on my card. They were close hairline decisions, not robberies. In fact Rodriguez had a habit of losing all his big fights at 147lb. He also lost by 15th round knockout to Curtis Cokes for title...This loss alone should keep him from being rated above griffith.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i was going to put Ted Kid Lewis in but i remembered someone else

    i would have him 11th with Britton 12th
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl The only round Tito won of the first 9 was the 4th round. Oscar clearly won the fight, he had it all locked up after 9 rounds. He gave tito a master boxing lesson, made him look silly.
     
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    Fortunately the judges saw the fight the way I did not the way you did.
     
  15. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which fights did you score for Griffith and which for Rodriguez? What were your scorecards by the way I'd like to see all four of them if I could?

    Rodriguez might have lost to Cokes, but it's more respectable than losing to Benny Kid Paret imo, especially since Rodriguez was at the end of his welterweight days and probably needed to move up anyway. We saw how incompetent Griffith looked once he could no longer make weight effectively at 147 (Napoles fight).