Do you think Margarito will someday be forgiven just as Mosley was?

First they were knuckle pads. They dont insert them because they are the first to go on.

They didn't turn into concrete but they were hard and stiff (court documents).

 

That too. :good

 

i can add pretty good. who buys drugs with the intent of not using? you hate margo and **** on him because you claim he had to have known his gloves were loaded, now dont you think shane knew steroids were prohibited?
i agree that loaded gloves and steroids are not the same thing but you are not arguing the severity of one with the relative severity of the other.
i have no problem with you crucifying margo and excusing shane (till he gets punished of course). my problem is that you do it behind the guise of being impartial.

 

You're right in a casual sense - it certainly would have been an unfair advantage, but where is the connection between steroids and the net gain in power required to cross the line to kill someone? A lot of guys juice, but to my knowledge nobody has been found guilty of taking steroids that caused an unnatural amount of damage to an opponent. Plaster of Paris, on the other hand, has demonstrably hurt people in the past.

 

Too much gray area surrounding that dlh rematch. We're not even sure if he knowingly used. As far as I'm concerned it might hurt him instead of helped him in the fight. Then you have to factor in the terrible judging, the fact that Oscar was going to investigate, and then you have to factor in the whole Arum's offices being raided by the FBI (the fight was apparently fixed). This fight was too much of a headache and the powers to be will simply ignore it. If there were some evidence that he used in any other fight, then I'd say no hof. IMO an asterisk is good enough.

 

It was not plaster of paris. Just want that out there.

 

Shane knowingly used. He openly admitted to knowingly taking EPO fully aware of what it was. There is nothing else to be said. Shane cheated.

 

- Someone on steroids can beat the sh*t out of you constantly without getting tired. That means that the crispness and force of the blows does not diminish over time at the same rate as someone who is natural.

- Someone with loaded gloves can beat the sh*t out of you in a shorter time-frame due to the hardness of the inserted objects.

The bottom line is that you will get beaten to a pulp by both. The only difference in the amount of time it takes.

 

Too bad the courts don't agree.

 

Steroids give a fighter an unfair advantage. Margarito is being targeted by biased hate mongers. He has not had fair treatment. People forget about Tito's gloves. The plaster crap has been lied about.

 

in due time he will be...i hope fans will support him when he come back...

 

I think people need to question themselves like.

Who do you want to face.

A 35 year old Mosley who's taking EPO, the Cream and the Clear and has trained for 3 months with them.

or a 35 year old Mosley who trains for 3 months without EPO The Cream and the Clear but using hard knuckle pads?


And who would you rather face?

A 35 year old Margarito who's taking EPO, the Cream and the Clear and has trained for 3 months with them.

or a 35 year old Margarito who trains for 3 months without EPO The Cream and the Clear but using hard knuckle pads?

 

Boxer "Sugar" Shane Mosley testified in 2003 that he injected himself with the notorious doping agent EPO as he prepared for his light-middleweight title fight against Oscar De La Hoya, according to grand jury transcripts and doping calendars reviewed by the Daily News.

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The Mosley transcripts are part of a massive BALCO file that was under a protective order from March of 2004 until last week, when U.S District Court Judge Susan Illston vacated the order at the request of prosecutors who are preparing for the March 2 trial of Barry Bonds on perjury charges.

In the testimony, recorded on Dec. 11, 2003, at the federal courthouse in San Francisco, Mosley also said that BALCO founder Victor Conte explained in detail how the drug was used and what its effects would be, including the potential harmful effects of the highly-regulated endurance booster. Mosley has admitted publicly and under oath that he used steroids and EPO, but has denied knowing that the drugs were banned or illegal.

When asked if he had gotten EPO from Conte, Mosley replied: "Yes, the hematocrit."

"And that's something you actually inject into yourself?" he was asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff Nedrow.

"I think it's right by your stomach, yes," Mosley said, indicating where the drug is often injected.

Conte has said he instructed Mosley on techniques for drawing EPO from a bottle with a syringe and injecting it in each side of the belly button in what is known as "double-saturation" injections.

At one point in the questioning, Nedrow produced a calendar seized from the BALCO lab showing Mosley used a potent cocktail of steroids and EPO right up until a few days before his victorious fight with De La Hoya on Sept. 13, 2003. The calendars denote which days Mosley was supposed to take which substances.

 

If he comes back and put on a win streak against top boxers at 147 assuming he gets to fight any of them again then i can see the public forgiving what he did.

If he comes back and get a fight with cotto again and beat him again and put on a couple of win streak against mosley-berto-mayweather then i think the plaster incident will die down.

 

There is no courts. He fully worked with the FBI and they did not charge him.

The cant change the outcome of the fight because it changes history.