Who wins - Dariusz Michalczewski vs Roy Jones Jr ?

Sure, but look at topic's name. It wasn't prime Michalczewski. Besides I don't think DM lost this fight against Gonzalez, just on scorecards there was a Julio's won. W/e DM via late stoppage Why not...

 

Jones was a better fighter, beat their shared opponents more impressivly.

And style wise has massive advantage over DM, who is not overly fast, is not a southpaw and is not a one punch KO artist.

He would lose a wide UD or get stopped late.

 

Not as easy as most of you'd think. Dariusz Michalczewski is clearly the 'other' best LHW of Roy's generation, and dominated the division just as bad.

People forget that Roy had an interim fight between Riuz and the Tarver KO loss - an extremely close fight vs. Tarver. There a difference in style, but what the Magic Man and Darek have in common is that they applied effectvie pressure and used their physical strenghts very well. Dariusz was a notoriously slow starter so he would've had to dig very deep to get into the fight, but he always came on ever stronger and faster. Roy had an extremely mediocre run at LHW, heavyweight trip or not, the first legit, LHW/CW sized opponent in long years was Tarver, and give the big man credit, because he put on a great fight vs. the supposedly prime Roy. Dariusz was even better cutting down the ring and nullifying speed, so IMO Roy would've had a tough tough fight vs. The Tiger. But style-wise, Michalczewski was fairly predictable European style one-dimensioanal fighter (pretty damn good in that dimension) and as I've said, a slow starter, so my money is on Roy by tough decision.

 

yeah, dm dosnet have the one punch ko power and hes not fast enough. jones would potshot him alll night, jones was just better.

 

DM would Crush that Glass Jaw expose his cherry picking ass

 

Please do explain the better fighters that DM fought compaired to Roy Jones.

 

DM had the better tools, a much better jab...and could take the hitting.

At the time I saw it as 3-2 for Jones and I am a DM fan. Now I see it as 3-2 for DM....in Jones absolutly Had to have his air breaks. That was proven with Johnson.

It would have been Jones hardest fight.

DM was a pressure fighter, even more than Glencoe Johnson.
He allowed no one to take an air break.

He would have been thinking what will I be doing to Jones than standing there flat footed like many Jones opponents wondering what Jones was going to be doing next.

Jones got free air breaks, standing off and mugging and clowning, poseng for animal crack*rs.
Johnson didn't allow him his air breaks and beat him up. Johnson was not the quite the fighter DM was.

Harmond said, Jones is the more athletic, but DM hits harder.

Offinsively, DM had no weaknesses, and was a better technical boxer, out side of taking a hit to give one.
Jones may have been faster, may have been.
How ever Jones put in his HBO contract that they were to Never Ever mention DM's name....which is why DM was not known.

As to Jones...the time between Griffith having the crown. Just after DM out boxed Hill, Jones said he'd fight DM in Germany for $4 million...which was the typical Jones crap....in Jones as hard as it is for US fans, was not even known in Germany...he could have walked any street in Germany and not been asked for an Autograph...DM was always giving autographs.

So who was dodging whom. DM said he'd fight in the states, all he wanted was half, in he was the real champ.
DM had three belts in Lt. Heavy long before Jones. IBF stripped DM, in a day when he did not **** can his WBO belt that got him the fight in the first place. WBA/C don't remember exactly, insisted DM fight someone else in 6 Weeks....not 6 months, not three months, in 6 weeks...so that belt was dropped.


Hill who had beaten just beaten Maske, got his largest purse, $2 million and Hill was well known in Germany because of the Maske fight...well liked too. This was at the time the highest purse in German history at any weight.

So Jones's crazy demand...just like demanding $25 million from Lewis was typical Jones bull****.


Yes DM would have won, in that Jones would have had to fight full 3 minute rounds and as Johnson proved, Jones could not do that.

After all wasn't it clever of that Pole...to make sure HBO never mentioned his name....

and by the way...DM was making just as much money defending his belt in Germany as Jones was making defending his belts (two stolen from DM) in the States.
many times DM said, he'd fight Jones...never did Jones say but once, when he was bullshitting for 4 million, with out a belt, did he ever say he'd fight DM. After that DM was Never mentioned, by Jones....not once....don't you find that a touch odd??????

The first thing Tavar did when he won his title was say, was "DM lets fight." DM answered yes,,,,immediatly!!!!!!!

Three days later Jones discovered Bad Blood, with a man he'd ignored for all his life....
Did Jones then say when he won, "DM lets fight"....are you crazy...DM was too dangerous for him....so he got KO'ed by a man who don't hit as hard as DM.


So now you know the rest of the story.

 

What everyone brings up the Tarver Ko,

Jones lost to Tarver at age 35 and losing alot of weight (muscle)

Look at Jones prior to that ....its night and day.

Michelzewski lost to Julio Gonzalez...not a tarver/Johnson.

I think jones would have put alot more pop on his punches to stop him cming forward, stopping him in mid rounds. Everyone is visualising the Jones post RUIZ vs Michelzewski pre GOnzalez.

lets judge themn prime for prime.
a total mismatch in favur of Jones

 

Why don't you go to Box rec.....but I doubt if you are old enough to have ever read Ring Mag at the time, they would not be names you know.

Griffith, Hall, Harmond and Girrad(sp) a very good European fighter. Piper was a good fighter too.
Gonzales won vs DM to my surprise...especally when you think DM for the first time I'd seen in years won the first two rounds.
It was a good fight.
I'd not expected him to be TKO'ed by Tissio(sp) either. That was another man Jones never fought. In he'd had a Lt. Heavy belt in Jone's era.

 

What? Roid got ko'ed by feather fisted Johnson.

And wtf, he was stopped by Tiozzo fool.

 

Jones would have been kept busy and honest against D.M. Due too the German's great strenghj and volume punching, and the fight may have resembled a lower case Ali-Chuvalo type of deal, with Jones fronting a bit more pop on his shots than Ali of course. Jones' speed and natural gifts would have earned him a comfortable decision, but I don't believe he would have put D.M. down at any time.

 

Stupid know about which you talk....it was a decision and in Germany at that.

And who was Champ first DM or Jones in Lt. Heavy? Let me tell you it was DM. Who was first Three Belt Lt. Heavy Champ....Let me tell you it was DM.
Who won belts stripped in a day and a month from DM....Jones....
Who Dodged...it was Jones.

 

ROFL

this must be a joke thread.


Michelzewski was a plodder, at his peak he was still a plodder, would have been a very one sided UD for Jones.


he lost to Julio gonzalez , a guy Jones schooled, a guy even Clinton woods beat,



Clinton Woods vs Michelzewski would have bean a better thread.

 

RJJ is over rated in Lhw:deal

 

Noobies should be seen and not heard until they know that styles make the fight.

DM had a compleatly different style than Jones. Not that I'd expect you to know that.....

It's like Smoking Joe, vs Bonivania and Ali vs Bonivania...two compleatly different styles.


Well I ain't responsible for your lack of boxing education. But you cna join the club of the many Jones fans don't know that styles make a fight.