Jerry Quarry and Joe Louis,

Louis opens cuts up on Jerry's face with his jab and bombs him out in 8rds.

 

Jerry hangs tough for about 3-4 rds the Joe's shots take there toll and jerry is done in 5-6 rds

 

Similar to the first Frazier fight: Quarry gets in some good shots in the opening round, but takes several, harder ones, in return and is lambasted for the remaining 3-4 rounds of the match.

 

I love Jerry Quarry, but I think Louis is just all wrong for him. Those fast and lethal combinations early on would be very dangerous, and I think Jerry would get hurt in there. Now, I agree with Chris that Quarry would have a chance at having a few good moments early on, but in the end I think he loses big.

 

I believe Jerry would have the edge in this matchup. He was more skilled and harder punching than Schmeling. I don't ever see Louis blowing out a prime Quarry. Even Frazier had a difficult time wIth him. And Quarry had no problem with super sluggers of his time like Shavers, Lyle and Mac Foster.

 

Actualy he was neither.

 

Joe could be a slow starter and times and Jerry was extremely talented but stubborn...case in point the first Frazier fight...Jerry could win this fight. He had an extremely good chin, good power, excellent skills, and he loved to brawl. If Joe didn't take Jerry serious enough he would get beat and maybe even stopped early.

 

As much as I liked Quarry, and enjoyed his fights, I think Joe could beat him 10 out of 10 times.

 

Quarry is not soe uncrowned champion who was unlucky to come allong at the wrong time. He simply wasnt that good.

He lost to the best of his era because he wasnt in their class and he would have lost to the best in Louis's era and I dont just mean Louis.

 

I think its fair to say that the opposition of the late 60's to mid 70's was a better crop than that of the 30's and 40's ( though I realize you never have and never will agree with this claim. )

I don't see Quarry beating Louis, Marciano, Walcott or Charles. But, I CAN see him beating Braddock, Sharky, Carnera, and on the right night even Baer. He was a very talented counter puncher who possesed a fair amount speed, power, and durability. He fought during what many consider to be the best heavyweight era ever, and was a top ranked contender for the better part of nearly a decade. He resoundingly defeated Floyd Patterson, Mac Foster, Buster Mathis, Ron Lyle and Earnie Shavers - all were modern day black fighters of quality talent.

 

I think a prime Sharky and Baer both beat Quarry.
Quarry did NOT resoundingly beat Patterson ,the scores were 6-6 7-6 7-6.
Their first fight was a draw with both men down.Floyd was 32 in their second fight.

 

Fair enough.

I'll give you the Ellis lost, but losing to prime versions of Ali and Frazier is something that I would have picked Baer, Carnera, Schmeling, Braddock, Sharkey and perhaps even Louis to do. No shame in having those defeats. Addiitionally, while Ellis is not on the level of an Ali or Frazier, he wasn't a bad fighter and a man who might have faired well in other eras.

To some extent yes, but I'd say the pluses well outweighed the minuses.

He may very well have dropped a few defeats here and there. But, I do think his chances of being a world title holder would be very strong, even if just for brief period. Surely his prospects would be much stronger during the great depression
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Okay, but Floyd was an all time great facing a young Quarry, and was dropped on more than one occasion by him.. Maybe it wasn't a decisive win, but nor was it a decisive loss.

 

Quarry is one of the most over rated fighters of all time. People like to say that he was one of the best non champions, but it's not like he just lost to the Ali's and Frazier's and smashed everyone else.

Quarry lost to Ellis for the WBA, lost to an old Eddie Machen (early in Quarrys career, though) lost to Chuvalo, and should of lost at least one of the fights against a past prime Floyd Patterson. His wins over Lyle, Shavers, Mac Foster, Thad Spencer, and Mathis soldify his status as one of the better fighters of the 70s, but he never belonged in the highest class but for some reason he's viewed by many as the best who never won the title.

Quarry would probably give Louis problems for a round or two like he did with Frazier, but he wouldn't last past 6.