Why all the hate for Wlad - Chagaev?

Hayelords said to themselves so many times that their man will beat Klitschko, they actually started to believe and pumped up for the show. And when Haye looked bad is sparring and "backed" out of the show, and Wladimir chose a better, more recognized, undefeated beltholder, that hurt their feelings.

 

Thats exactly the point, but don´t tell the Hayeloards. They will start another propaganda.

 

Chagaev doesn't have what it takes to be Klitschko.

He's a southpaw and he's tenative with the 1-2 being his bread and butter.

If he was more fluid and inclined to engage at close range while avoiding shots to get inside, he may have a chance, but he lacks power and ESPECIALLY speed, so that's entirelly unlikely.

Haye has the style to beat Wlad and the power and speed to pull it off.

Chag is an easy fight. Nobody wants to see it.

 

haye is an even easier fight. but for some reason people want to see it. it's just good promotion.

 

:huh:huh

 

I don't think you understand boxing if you really believe this.

Now granted, I've recently been in the business of bein pissed off that this fight is gonna happen rather than breakin down the fight from an analytical perspective, but why don't you give it a shot and tell me why Chag is a "harder" fight.

He isn't.

He doesn't have the style, athleticism nor skills to get the job done.

 

I agree completely! :good:good:good

 

Agree completely. I'm a big fan of Haye and a admirer of Klitschko.

There has been an astounding level of ******ness from Klitites on one hand making claims against Haye and from Hayefans/anti-Klitschko trolls on the other claiming that Klitschko should have acted otherwise.

Of course Haye is legimately injured. Of course Wladimir shouldn't sit around waiting for him to get fit. Chagaev is a spectacularly good replacement opponent in the circumstances.

If trolls on both side would all stfu the board would be a much better place.

 

A bone of contenttion for me is that the reasoning behind choosing Chagaev was that Haye may get injured again. Fine, all well and good, but this is Chagaev we are talking about. The same Chagaev that people on these forums were demanding he retire after not being able to compete against Valuev. How many fights has he pulled out of now?? If that's the case, why not just re-schedule for Haye. All in all I think Chagaev is a decent replacement but the fight itself will be Ibragimovesque - a real snoozer.

I've got no real issues with Wlad not waiting, as long as Haye gets his shot. It will actually be good for Haye to have another fight at heavyweight against a McCline or Holyfield (just tossing names about here) to establish himself as a heavyweight to a greater degree.

 

I'm unhappy cause i was really looking forward to see Wlad against a fast guy like Haye. There was definatly going to be fireworks, and something exciting was going to happen.

Both guys had built themselves right up and one of them was going to take a fall, it was going to be a great night of boxing.

Now the Chagaev fight could be great, but i got a bad feeling that it will turn into another long snooze fest, with Wlad being cautious, jabbing away and walking backwards.

 

Chagaev did not pull out of the fight with Valuew, period.

The last I heard Chag was ready and willing to fight but was not allowed to because of the Finnish federation's rules. That is different from pulling out (nb. Valero can not fight in the US, but ask his recent opponents if that means he isn't fit to do so...). Wlad fighting Chag should drive that point home (though I'm pretty sure it won't, as logic is a rather scarce commodity around here).