Do you think Margarito will someday be forgiven just as Mosley was?

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  1. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Difference is EVERYONE is doing steroids, Mosley just got caught.

    Only Margo and Luis Resto are using loaded gloves. Resto went to prison. Margo is looking for another big fight.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Again I repeat. Did RJJ/Mosley get suspended, stripped, fined, banned, result of a fight changed?

    Give me a YES or NO please and end it right there. Bull**** theories and rumors mean nothing to me, if the man wasn't FINED then the man left clean. He might have admitted taking EPO or whatever it is and passed the tests for it but still his intention wasn't to cheat in taking that as he already said, if his intention was cheating he would have been caught using another performance enhancing drug.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    What are they planning to do about it?, is he going to be fined?, suspended?, result changed?

    When any of that happens I'll pay attention.
     
  4. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah I do. IF Margrito shows compassion, remorse and if his "I didn't know" story is somehow able to check out then yes he will be forgiven. We've forgiven people for worse.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    although i dont agree that margo should get lifetime ban, i do respect your view because of its consistency and impartiality. you seem like a tough but fair judge.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    He did say "I didn't know" and it's bull****, that's why no one pays attention to him. Both him and Capatello are far too close for him to not know about something like that.
     
  7. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    you didnt wait until margo got suspended to "pay attention" :deal


    there's a bigger chance of margo not knowing about the old pads then mosley INJECTING HIMSELF...yet you still give him the benefit of the doubt :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  8. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moral and legal issues aside, there's a very simple answer to the OPs question.

    Mosley has been "forgiven" (I don't really think that's a good word, but we'll stick with it) because since the allegations from the De La Hoya fight, he has gone on to prove that he is a great fighter who didn't need to bend the rules to win. He dominated Collazo and gave Cotto an excellent fight. The public's last image of Margarito was seeing him beaten around a ring looking like Samson with his hair cut off. Not only was he caught cheating that night, but the perception created was that without cheating, he was a fraction of the fighter he had been.

    The only way he is going to erase that perception is by coming back clean and winning fights impressively. It's doubtful everyone will forgive him, but it would salvage something of his legacy. As it stands, rightly or wrongly, his entire career can be questioned. You can't say the same about Mosley.
     
  9. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    what trips me out is this....if for some reason there is a way to cheat the steroid tests....then how long was he doing this for, and did he continue to do it ????
     
  10. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. I just think if for some reason his story cleared out, we would have to forgive him.
     
  11. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    YEs. He deserves a chance and it'll happen.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Here's an excerpt from an article from another site,

    "While it wasn't directly said, the paper hints that a possible motive to move the fight may have to do with the recent release of Mosley's transcript statements that were given to the grand jury that investigated the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative. In the transript, Mosley told the jury that he knew that he was taking the oxygen-boosting drug EPO to prepare for his 2003 rematch with Oscar De La Hoya. He also revealed that he was told to refer to the THG [a designer steroid] as "flaxseed oil."

    Keith Kizer, head of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, told The Times that the commission was likely going to confront Molsey on the transcript because the fight had previously told them that he didn't believe that he was taking anything that was on the banned list of the World Anti-Doping Agency. Kizer did tell the paper that he didn't think Mosley moved the fight to avoid possible discipline in Nevada."

    In addition, the NSAC concluded that they didn't have the authority to change the result of the Hoya fight because of how long ago it took place. Rest assured, that fight would be changed to a NC is the NSAC had the authority. Mosley cheated, end of story. He even admitted as much to a grand jury.
     
  13. Solid Chin

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    I havent read all of the posts but the ones I've read that condone Mosley taking performance enhancing drugs is just plain ****ing stupid.

    How the **** can a professional elite athlete not know what the **** he is taking when he fully well knows what type of company Balco is.

    ****ing absolute horse****. Look how many Athletes have been caught taking **** and then downright deny they did not know what they had taken.

    ****ing strike me down with lightning now but do you really think Mosley would take something if he did not know what it was.

    Come on you assholes WAKE THE **** UP...Athletes do this **** all the time and get away with it.

    Margarito is no different, it is all performance enhancing so it all falls under the same thing, you cant create your own rules for the 2 fighters, they both tried to gain an advantage so they should be handled exactly in the same manner.

    I still believe that Margarito did not know about the handwraps because if he has had them from the time he has been with Capatello then he probably never questioned them so why would he pay attention to them if he dont wrap his hands. As long as his wraps are comfortable then there is a big possibility that he did not know. Think about it, it does make sense if you take time to look past your own blind ignorance.
     
  14. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    scar has been getting slapped up and down these threads for the last few weeks :lol::lol::lol:
     
  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    I did wait till he was officially suspended to call him a cheater so don't put words in my mouth please.

    About "chances" of not knowing Margarito took it, I wouldn't really pay attention to what someone like you would say in this case knowing how biased and "pig mode" you go when it comes to fighters based on race. Castillo fails to make weight twice and he shouldn't be bashed on, Corrales does it once and you're all over him. Then comes Pacquiao hitting Marquez when he's down and a DQ or at least one point should be taken, Margarito does it intentionally to Cotto and you laugh your fat ass off at people that bashed on him for it. A fruitcake like you is not one to take serious.