Should Wlad get the ring belt for beating #3?

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  1. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    Precisely the reason it SHOULD'NT be for the belt.
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Of course he should. Wlad should already have the Ring Belt.
     
  3. Muchmoore

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    :huh

    Theoretically and in a perfect world it would be determined by the 1 and 2 fighting. But that ISN'T going to happen here so a fight between the 1 and 3 is the next best thing.
     
  4. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    My whole point is that "next best thing" and "might as well give it to him" are shitty reasons for Ring to crown a champion.
     
  5. Muchmoore

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    Wlad could arguably be champion now, this win would mean he has 3 belts and a win over 3rd ranked Chagaev
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    That's what I exactly posted up there . . . 3 belts = lineal champion = ring.
     
  7. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Kessler was #2.

    Whenever Jones won his Ring belt, it was a #1 vs #3 as well because DM was #2.
     
  8. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    In both of those cases though the skill/achievement gap between 2 and 3 was much, much smaller than this one.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Didn't Vitali get his belt for beating #3 in Sanders?

    Yet for Margarito vs. Shane (1 vs 3, and already beat #2), that wasn't enough for some bull**** reason of Paul WIlliams. Maybe Wlad should go and beat Sanders first...if they want to be consistent with their inconsistency.
     
  10. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    The question was seen to on Boxing Girl's radio show earlier today (On The Ropes).

    The answer is a conclusive no.
     
  11. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, it is under a special circumstance and it's unification also.
     
  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. The likelihood of his fighting #2, as much as some of might like to see it, is minimal. #3 is the only realistic option, and it's justifiable.
     
  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Incorrect. Margarito was number one ranked, Cotto number two and Mosley number three. The Ring polled the panel that decides the ratings who voted that bthe belt should not be awarded in that case.

    From the scene of boxing:

     
  14. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes give him the ring belt, but is it exciting to see wlad get it....**** NO!
     
  15. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I'm not sure.
    Their rationale for awarding Calzaghe the belt after he beat #3 Lacy was that there wasn't an appreciable difference in the ability or the records of Lacy and Kessler.
    In this case there's a huge difference between Vitali and Chagaev.
    The only reason for awarding the title to the winner of this fight is that the top two heavyweights will never fight each other.
    That's understandable in this case but where do you draw the line?
    If the top two are good friends?
    What if the #1 goes on record as saying he will never fight the guy who's #2?
    Do they just accept that and ask him to fight #3.
    I agree with them voting on situations like this on a case-by-case basis - hopefully it won't happen too often.