Vitali Klitschko vs. the Buster Douglas that fought Tyson

Douglas, decision.

 

Compare it with Tommy Loughran ,nailing Braddock with a good shot ,Braddock fell forward and opened up a huge gash on Loughran's forehead ,the blood cascaded down and acted as a lubricant in Tommy's eyes his eyes rolled back in his head and he couldnt see , reeling around , he clung on till the end of the round and got patched up ,came out to win a dec.
Braddock fighting with broken hands , ribs , etc.
Ali and Kevin Finnegan fighting with broken jaws , when a huge man quits whilst in front against a light punching adversary it does leave a taste .

 

and holds the record for fewest rounds lost of any champion...

Baloney. It shows that Vitali was dominant in the ring, and could not be out boxed. Not even by the likes of Lewis or Byrd. At best each man only won two rounds vs Vitali. And we know Lewis and Byrd were great boxers. Donald was a good boxer, and he won at best one round. Gomez is another good boxer. He won 1 round.

The truth is, fighters like Joe Louis lost more rounds to the likes of Walcott than Vitlai did in his entire professional career.

 

Stop your killing me!:-(

 

To some extent I agree.

While I do not give Vitali Klitschko a lot of points for a legacy career, I think he is a big threat to a lot of very good fighters head to head. His chin, Power, size and punching ability must be considered as a force to be reckoned with. I don't think Tyson, Holmes, Ali, or Louis would enter the ring taking him lightly. In fact, I think most of those guys would anticipate receiving one of the better challenges of their careers. I certainly would....

 

The guy is 6'7 and awkward, but so was Henry Akinwande. Klitschko is a solid guy, just not even close to as great as many on here think.

 

He's actually closer to 6'8".

In either case, I'm not calling the man a " great " fighter. At least not from a legacy perspective. I don't think its unreasonable to think that he might be a problem for a lot of great fighters in head to head matchups though. Some people here want to label him as a bum, and he simply isn't..

 

douglas at his best had far more boxing skills i think

 

No hes not a bum, and certainly better than Akinwande, but I think he would have fallen into the category of a Buster Douglas type fighter had he been in his prime in the 80's. To me Douglas is more talented overall, but he, like Klitschko, had some mental flaws.

 

how in hell is he in any top 10 of alltime?

 

Maybe he started his top ten in 1995.

 

:rofl:rofl

 

I don't think that most would have him in their top 10, and I don't know if he ever will be a top 10 fighter. I do think however that his career record is pretty impressive, and coming back after 4 years and a the age of 37 to capture a belt, even if it was against Sam Peter is not too bad of a claim..

Legacy wise, we can't say too much about Klitschko, especially with Sam Peter, Corrie Sanders, Herbie Hide and Larry Donald being his best wins. I do think that he did a good job at dispatching some pretty durable opponents, and is fairly skilled for a big man. His chin is very solid too, though he has shown some durability problems in other areas. Head to head, I think he has a good chance of beating some smaller, less durable great champions. I think he easily gets outboxed by men like Holmes and Ali, but might have a chance at scoring stoppages against guys like Frazier, Norton, Patterson, and several others.

 

It shows that Vitali was dominant in the ring, and could not be out boxed. Not even by the likes of Lewis or Byrd. At best each man only won two rounds vs Vitali. And we know Lewis and Byrd were great boxers. Donald was a good boxer, and he won at best one round. Gomez is another good boxer. He won 1 round.

The truth is, fighters like Joe Louis lost more rounds to the likes of Walcott than Vitlai did in his entire professional career.

You are aware that a prime Ali from 1964-1967 lost more rounds than Vitali did in Vitali's entire pro career. Its true, Lefthook31. If Ali was untouchable in the ring would he really lose multiple rounds to the likes of Doug Jones, Karl Midendberger, Henry Cooper, a past his best Floyd Patterson, and a past his best Zora Folley? If you watch the tape you will see that Ali had fundamental flaws on defense. He also lacked the big time height and power to get the other guys respect, which is why the above men landed plenty on him and took multiple rounds.

I think its best to say that Vitali Kltishcko is incredibly hard to out box and will likely never come close to losing a decision in his career.

 

All this rounds argument shows is Vitali has fought nothing but no hopers outside of his losses

Tyson is a bad stylistic match up for Vitali and would be t he toughest test of VKs career. However Tyson was lazy, unsharp (is that a word?), and relying on 1 punch. He would still land more than anyone else has on Vitali, slip his lacksidasical jab, and hammer Vitali with the cleanest flushest hardest shots the Ukranian has ever taken. Even this version of Tyson has the potential to win a cuts stoppage or a KO, Vitali has a good chin but Tysons 1 of the best KO artists ever. Plus Vitali backs up with his hands down, Tyson will think its party time when Vitali does this. However Tyson wasnt at the races for this fight so Vitali may get away with an unlikely UD win.