Out of the All-Time Heavyweights List...Who Does Vitali Beat and Why?

Whats really funny is Foreman at age 54 stated that if Vitali beat Lewis he would come out of retirement to fight him, which says alot when you consider how careful Foreman was in his 40s to stay away from Tyson, Lewis, and Bowe.

 

I agree, he did duck Holmes. Holmes always wanted a piece of George, and probably would of beat him in the late 80's, early 90's. I could see Foreman being outboxed in a one sided affair at that time, though Foreman always had that chance of landing something big and the fight is over. Even if you watch him against a prime Holyfiled in 91, he had his moments against the superior boxer in Evander. I remember Evander saying after the match, he couldn't believe the stamina Big George had.

Back to the ducking aspect, we could go back and forth all day when it comes to fighters ducking people. I could easily use Vitali as an example, backing out of 4 fights against Rahman in 05. Lewis refusing to fight Vitali again for big money. There are very few Heavyweights out there that you can claim fought everyone, other than maybe Ali or Holyfield.

 

Oh no, poor Vitali. How can he compete with the magical powers of the old schoolers and atgers. Impossible. Typical bull****. If they are from USA, they have additional magical powers.

 

Corecet me if I'm wrong but all but one of Vitali Klitchko's wins are by ko.
So we know he has power. Keep in mind that a lot of very good al time great heavyweights would be crusierweights today or at least very small heavyweights. V.K. is huge. Joe Louis for example is 6' 1"-6' 2" and about 210lbs. By no means a small man V.K. would tower over him. His style needs to be taken into account as well. The best way for a boxer with the physcial advantages that V.K. has (height and reach) is to stay on the toes use the jab to create distance and score points while looking to land the stright usualy right hand to inflict damage. V.K. uses a lot of uper body movement a style that is more suited for a smaller man. His jab is a battering ram. He uses it as an offensive weopen rather than a defensive one. His uper body movement makes him hard to hit espicialy in the early rounds but as a bout goes on he becomes less elsuive and when he starts to get hit he is not as good as he is when he is not getting hit.
I think that he has the power and skills to stop anyone. However it would have to be with within the first 4-6 rounds, after that he starts to get hit more and more. Which will lead to a decision loss or in some cases a stopage loss for V.K.

 

Holmes likely would've beat Foreman in the late 70s early 80s as well, thats the only guy though I would say he ducked, I mean this guy is unreasonble to expect Foreman well in his 40s to get in the ring with Tyson, Lewis and Bowe. Foreman fought Holy, Moorer and Morrison because he still had some advantages.

 

Most of his wins are by KO but his best win is over a fat 38 yr old golfer, his resume is so weak that his KO record needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

 

He didn't. You must not have seen the fight. The fight I saw. The fight the judges saw, and the fight everyone else saw had him ahead on the cards, winning each round. Doesn't sound like getting his ass handed to him to me.

 

Exemplary for the rest:

Yes, because he was a tactitian with very good understanding, good reflexes, and timing. Basically Vitali COPIED Alis style tailored to his size, watching that ones fights over and over.

No, he couldn't. Do you think Max Schmeling was such an uber fighter ? Either Klitschko would **** Louis since they can do everything better than Louis could. Louis wasn't technically exceptional like Lennox, exceptionally fast like some fighters in history, or exceptionally strong like Tyson. He is a national hero fighting in a time of stiffs and fixed fights, with good athletics for THAT time. Watch a 50s basketball game and compare that to todays NBA playoffs.

Basically you can throw every historical great who feasted on small or stiff men with good athletics into the trash bin, if facing Vitali. His nemesis are those who are technically and tactically gifted, extremely quick, or have terrific game reading skills, like Lennox Lewis.

The rest is plain fan smack and Klitschko bashing. If you don't put in the 38 years old Klitschko with both knees, his punching hand shoulder and his spine surgically fixed with 20 hours of surgery, but the guy who annihilated Herbie Hide, all the small heavies of the old would get smacked around. Lennox Lewis would be favorite, prime Foreman (the improved version with a good jab), Holmes and Holyfield, and a couple of underrated tall technical fighters with good range and movement would give him a hard fight, the rest gets smoked unless they run. Watch Schmeling vs. Louis I and imagine a 6'8" fighter with better athletics doing this.

 

If he was winning each rd, than why was he holding Lewis and staggering arond the ring? And how did he get that huge cut that resulted in a loss by TKO?

 

I agree with you there, it would be suicide for him to fight a prime Tyson, Lewis, or Bowe. I mean these guy were not only skillful, but they also had devastating power. Foreman retired in 1977 I believe, so really that left Holmes to rule the divsion from 78 to 84-85 when Spinks beat him and then Tyson came into the picture soon after that.

 

I stopped reading after that. :verysad

 

You stopped thinking about reality long, long ago.

Louis vs. the heavies from the 60s on is like Jesse Owens vs. Usain Bolt. I don't hold that against him, but that has to be considered when argueing mythical match ups of strongmen like John L. Sullivan vs. boxing superathlets like Lennox Lewis et al.

BTW, BOWE ???? The guy whose prime lasted 5 minutes somewhere in the middle of a fight, who lost badly to an insane pole twice getting saved his face from the ref ?

 

Louis beat the **** outta a CARBON copy of Wlad in Primo Carnera.

Watch film. The mother ****ers LOOKS just like Wlad.

You're really ridin the Klitscho's dicks.

 

It's not fair of me to argue with an almost blind debilitated who thinks Primo Carnera resembles anything remotely like Vitali or Wlad Klitschko, other than perhaps in weight and skin color.