trouble moving forward and letting hands go.

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  1. chadDe72

    chadDe72 Member Full Member

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    I've been boxing for awhile but cant seem to let my hands go. Im not afraid of getting hit or anything i just cant let them go. Its like i wait for my opponent to throw and then i throw and repeat.

    Another thing i have troubles with is moving in. I think this is because when I move towards my opponent, he backs away and keeps backing because we dont have a ring, just a yard.

    Any advice on any of these things?

    BTW, im 6'2 and 163lbs
     
  2. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jab.
    Everything starts with a good jab. Initiate with your own jab. Need to move in? Use the jab.
    Your pretty tall, so you should have a great reach with the jab.
     
  3. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    padwork will help you with this
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    All the padwork in the world isn't going to help someone whose gunshy. He needs to spar and spar until he is confident enough to let them go.
     
  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Oh and get to the gym. Your wasting your time in your garden.
     
  6. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good padwork with an experienced pad man does help... I know, I have trained fighters using this method who were afriad to let punches go... all it takes is a good pad man.

    He says he is not scared of getting hit - so fear is not the problem. Good padwork will help sharpen up punches so he can react quickly to opportunities that the pad man presents him with. He can carry this skill over to his sparring, and apply it by using it to 'time' his opponents, and initiate attacks based on what's infront of him - this is an invaluable skill.

    He also says he struggles moving in, regardless of whether his opponent is throwing or not. Again, padwork helps with this. Its easy for a beginner to throw punches when they are standing still, but they often struggle when they have to move and throw. This is because they actually focus too much on their footwork, neglect their proper punch mechanics and get countered to death when they are trying to close the gap. Padwork, if done correctly, offers an alternative for a fighter who keeps on getting countered. As the padman, you dictate the movement ie move just out of range, try to close the distance etc, the fighters remit is simply to maintain his distance, be it by backing up, moving laterally or moving forward. Once they get adept at maintaining distance, add in a jab, then a 1-2 etc. Once they are comfortable, let them spar, they move in and out comfortably, and they remember defense and punch mechanics, hence they don't get hit so often, enjoy sparring more and progress as a fighter.

    Pads are one of the most under utilised tools when it comes to developing a fighter.
     
  7. jordaw

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    I agree with Bodi. Also, you may have a problem setting your feet while moving forward or problems with where your shifting your weight. i am a similar build/weight to yours and i initially had problems moving forward and backwards and throwing my right or left hand. make sure your keeping a lot of weight on your back foot and when you throw your jab, step into it. this will let you keep a good distance to your opponent since he is always backing up and it also lets you put something behind your jab. also, when you step into your jab, dont throw yourself forward. Step quietly if that makes sense and keep a little weight on your back foot to back up your left hand. how is your balance? do you feel yourself falling forward when your throwing your 1 2? make sure your throwing all your punches correctly and that you feel good on your feet.
     
  8. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're probably like me, too focused on trying to make every punch land. Like my trainer said, don't look for an opening.... make one.
     
  9. chadDe72

    chadDe72 Member Full Member

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    Now that I thik about what you just said, I think you nailed it.

    I find myself not wanting to throw a punch unless I KNOW its going to land, therefor not throwing much at all.

    How would I make openings though?
     
  10. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm behind the jab always helps. Think of the jab as a distraction, and when you throw a right immediatly after they won't see it coming. You basically play mind games with your opponent
     
  11. Duhswag

    Duhswag Active Member Full Member

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    Experience is the only answer to this honestly
     
  12. thekokid

    thekokid Member Full Member

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    start off in sparring moving foward a bit more and letting the punches go in 3s and 4s, and then you will gain experience and be able to transfer this into a fight. but you dont need to come foward the whole tym, use your reach to fight on the outside if needed!
     
  13. Peterp

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    Spar someone smaller and less experienced than yourself so you can build your confidence up (don't try hurt them). Then when you spar someone your own ability or better, you should be better prepared
     
  14. Pugsley

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    Its a psyche thing. you must spar in a ring, having indefinite space relegates your partners' training into thinking its a running match. Encouraging their habit does not help you, where in a real situation you'd be cutting them off, cornering them with your footwork.

    You cant throw shot by shot expecting to be clean, this can only be had by plenty of experience, playing off cues with head and foot movement. Instead, you should be getting used to the idea that your combos should be thrown (replace your desire to have precision) this should mess up their guard and automatically create openings, you also get a chance to pick up on the opponents' habits which works in your favor when it comes to the mix. If you have to, stagger your timing or stagger your foot work forcing him to work harder than yourself, this will ridicule and tire him out. Dont worry about damage or accuracy, get comfortable with establishing a punch + footwork rhythm. Bodi's treatise on pads pretty much breaks it down.
     
  15. brown bomber

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    Bodi, I like 99% of your posts but on this occasion I feel your incorrect. Your right in that Pad work is under-rated, however the cure for lack of confidence throwing punches at something thats throwing back....is to.... Throw puches at someone who can throw back and is moving and learn to develop confidence.

    I would have them spar under conditions, ie one jabs the other blocks then change. One doubles, the other blocks-slips etc etc.... build it up until its almost a normal spar then take the arm bands off.

    This is the best cure for your problem, trust me i've been there and i've cured it. Yesterday in fact.

    Bodi nothing personal but this one I feel pretty stongly about.

    All the best.