prime rjj v prime calzaghe should not even be discussed in the same breath

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  1. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Getting back to the question possed by the thread starter - YES, Calzaghe can be mentioned in the same breadth as Roy Jones.

    Because - they are the same age, had fought in the same weight divisions at various times and fought each other in the ring, with Joe Calzaghe whipping Roy Jones arse in Roy Jones own country.
     
  2. route1

    route1 Member Full Member

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    trampie he was a washed up old weak tired looking fighter when they fought. the fight should be scratched that fight of the record. that was not the rjj in there who excited us with his unreal combos lighting quick hands and reflexes. the one who can play a basketball match in the morning and still box and win the same night. its sad that cal had that for his last fight for HE SAID I WONT FIGHT RJJ HE IS WELL PAST HIS PRIME. then why did he fight him??? because he looked impressive against trinadad who had not fought in 2 years and jones could not even stop him. and yet he still managed to put cal flat on his ass first round as a washed up fighter while cal was in his prime. i would fear for cal prime for prime in this fight
     
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    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    BC CAL WAS RETIRING AND NEEDED A BIG PAYDAY.

    Jeez, some people just don't get it.
     
  4. route1

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    well he got his pay day milking it from the greatest fighter of my era. smart business
     
  5. route1

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    hahahahahaha same result i actually think u might beileve that
     
  6. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    lol cal wasnt prime against jones, hell he wasnt even prime when he faced lacy, 2003 and the fight with mitchell was prime JC:smoke
     
  7. route1

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    he primed late. im not posting in this tread again. but prime for prime jones eats him. thats my final words on this
     
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    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    i agree in the sense that jc wouldve lost to RJJ

    JC's primes

    physical prime - 1997
    technical prime - 2008
    overall prime - 2003
     
  9. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Calslappy fan quote of the week right there.
     
  10. prideofvbeach

    prideofvbeach Top 10 Pound-For-Pound Full Member

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    Roy took the easy way out a lot of times. I have a lot more respect for Hopkins. Even at heavyweight, Roy took the easy path to a title fighting "The Boring Man." Even at his peak, I see Calzaghe outworking him down the stretch to a UD win.
     
  11. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Messy to Watch
    Watch Calzaghe on youtube prior to hurting his hand/hands, a poster put up the Calzaghe v Pat Lawlor fight on the classic forum, the Calzaghe v Lawlor example was typical of an 'early' Calzaghe fight, fast hands, fast feet, good body position, hands held high, chin tucked in and good clean punches thrown in combinations, Joe Calzaghe pre injuries was a skilled boxer, unfortunately a lot of people only seen him at the end of his career and therefore think he had a sloppy style, the opposite was actually true of a young Joe Calzaghe {pre hand injuries} he was highly skilled.

    Hid at Home
    Calzaghe fought 28 fights away from home and only 18 in Wales.
    { 2 USA, 1 Germany, 1 Denmark, 1 Scotland, 23 England}
    Just for information, Joe would have faced many hostile crowds whilst fighting Englishmen in England, England and Wales big sporting rivals, the countrys were at war 600 years ago, this just adds to his achievements.
    Roy Jones never fought as a pro outside of his own country.

    Hope these observations clear up some of your concerns.
     
  12. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Deserves to be top of the page, dont you think ?
     
  13. TeflonDom

    TeflonDom Active Member Full Member

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    Before he hurt his hands he was hitting with power. After it looked like he was trying to connect with the joints of his fingers instead of using his knuckles - to take the pressure off his metacarpals. Hence the accusations of slapping.
     
  14. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe's damaged hands turned him into a slapper. His once fearsome southpaw left became no more than a flick.

    Calzaghe had 22 fights before he fought Eubank for a version of the 'Supermiddleweight' title, Calzaghe stopped 21 of those 22 opponents inside the distance, he even knocked down granite chinned Eubank when he won the title, Calzaghe then stopped his next 2 opponents, both title defences, giving him a record of 25 fights, 25 wins, 23 wins inside the distance.
    Calzaghe then damaged/broke his hand/hands in the Robin Reid fight that went the distance.

    Joe was never a one punch merchant, always a combination puncher, Joe was a very accomplished, highly skilled operator, most people have only seen him in the last few years and think he has a bad technique, well the opposite was true in the first half of his career he had good technique, World class infact.
     
  15. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I like Calzaghe got tones of respect for his abilities, but if he ever came up against a prime Roy Jones, he would get dominated, maybe even stopped. It wouldnt be close, Roy was on another level as a fighter.