prime rjj v prime calzaghe should not even be discussed in the same breath

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  1. preciseI247

    preciseI247 Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah Hill, Toney and Hopkins are pure trash. You must think Calzaghe runs through prime Toney then right? Since he's so sub-par.
     
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  2. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Too right Joe Calzaghe runs through a clean prime James Toney, James Toney tested positive for two types of steroids in 2007, boldenone and stanazolol, Toney only recieved a pathetic 6 month suspension and a very small fine.
    That positive steroid test is Toney's second. In 2005, his title victory by decision over World Boxing Council heavyweight champion John Ruiz was ruled a no-contest after Toney tested positive for nandrolone in New York

    Do you see the problem, from where I am sitting it looks like drug taking is rife in American sports, with the authorites turning a blind eye, Toney for Christ sake has been caught twice for steriods and only recieved a slap on the wrist, it is very hard for me to accept that your boys could beat Joe Calzaghe fairly when they are failing drug tests left right and centre.

    What is your excuse for Toney's failed drugs tests ?

    Are you were comparing a juiced up James Toney v Joe Calzaghe ?
    or a non juiced up but clean James Toney v Joe Calzaghe ?
     
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  3. preciseI247

    preciseI247 Member banned Full Member

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    Trampie you are a brilliant debater. Gain understanding from bias american fans towards Joe Calzaghe by dismissing their fighters with half-ass accusations of drug use. Bravo. I think prime Calzaghe vs. Toney is a ****ing fantastic fight. Sucks you can't be half as objective.
     
    preciseI247, Jun 12, 2009
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  4. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ''Half-ass accusations'', James Toney has been caught twice for taking steriods - FACT. :roll:

    Calzaghe v Toney would have been a fantastic fight.:good
     
    trampie, Jun 12, 2009
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  5. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    says the person with jones as his username AND his avatar
     
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  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones was caught with a substance that is used for injury recovery,not performance enhancement.His opponent for that fight tested positive for the same substance.Jones has never tested positive for any substance since then.
     
    Clinton, Jun 12, 2009
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  7. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Quite frankly,Trampie,Toney hasn't fought at 168 since the mid 90's('94 I think),which would have been 11 years before he was tested positive.
     
    Clinton, Jun 12, 2009
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    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Clearly starting yet another thread on the subject is the best way to accomplish this...
     
    Cobbler, Jun 12, 2009
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  9. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True.All of us who continue to make comments on this subject have clearly forgotten the meaning of the expression "overkill".
     
    Clinton, Jun 12, 2009
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  10. JonesHagler

    JonesHagler Active Member Full Member

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    Toney would take a **** on Calzaghe
     
    JonesHagler, Jun 12, 2009
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  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Nah, nobody is capable of treating Calzaghe that way, not Jones, not Hopkins, not Hagler, not Monzon & not Toney..... less of the nonsense please, Calzaghe knows how to fight, he belongs with the best.
     
    Bill Butcher, Jun 12, 2009
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  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Check a couple of posts below my one you highlighted, I state that I was just ****in around with some haters, obviously Calzaghe TKO4 Jones is a noise up (as would be Jones TKO4 Calzaghe)

    ;)
     
    Bill Butcher, Jun 12, 2009
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  13. JonesHagler

    JonesHagler Active Member Full Member

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    calzaghe is the best
     
    JonesHagler, Jun 12, 2009
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  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gotcha.I usually don't check the names when I respond,just when I'm annoyed.I'm not a Calzaghe hater either.Just stopped being a fan when he lied about Jones.
     
    Clinton, Jun 12, 2009
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  15. Fighting Weight

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    Calzaghe fan quote of the week part 2 :D:rofl
     
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