Why is Pacquiao so popular in the US and the Klit brothers aren't?

Why would I deny the fact that there is prejudice in the world? Are you a moron? I never said there wasn't. There has been a bunch of lame, copout "Americans hate Klitschko's because they're racist" stuff in this thread, some of up perpetrated bu you, and backed up by others. And you, like a simpleton, have linked some article citing irrefutable FACT that something everyone on the planet knows exists is a waste of time and space, and completely missing the point. There is racial prejudice in the world. We get it. I'll update this reply with an article written by Eskimos proving without a shadow of a doubt that people breath air? That's not the point.

There's racist people everywhere, again, even wherever you live. Are the racist people in your land better than the racists in another? It doesn't always have to be "us vs them." This is boxing. If I keep watching a guy fight and he keeps boring me, I can choose not to watch him fight again. I'm not one to constantly hate on any fighter, I never have called Wlad a prerogative name or made a pun on his name. I don't want to see him maimed or permanently harmed in or out of the ring. I'm just trying to prove to you that predetermining the notion that fans outside of Germany who might not love Wlad must be racist. I think people who throw out idiotic racial slurs about him obviously are. But passing off racism as if it's somehow an "American" thing is dumb as hell. Guarantee the next time Wlad or Vitali fights an America in Germany, there will be plenty of Germans slinging racial slurs at the American. It's worldwide.

I'm not refusing to admit there's racism in the world, I'm just not allowing you to use racism as some blanket cop-out to hide behind. It's weak. I'm saying that it's not the universal reason you simpletons are trying to say it is. If you could comprehend what you've read, you'd see that I said I was excited about Wlad for the first several times I saw him fight, after getting KO'd twice he fights in such a cautious style I can't imagine even Wlad's own family thinking he's more exciting than Pacquaio. Which is the subject of this thread. Not racism. But you morons had to try to use it as a blanket to hide behind, and that **** is annoying. I'm not calling you on this **** because I'm patriotic, I'm calling you on it because I strongly dislike hearing people say wildly, bombastically stupid things. Hence my replies. Talk **** on America all day, I really don't care. But keep talking stupid **** and passing it off as gospel will forever work my nerves and calling people out on their bull**** is my weakness.

 

AZTEC.

That's all I need to know.

 

Boom! This guy gets it. I remember when Wlad had just a few fights on HBO, and people on ESPN (Kellerman mainly) were ALREADY doing the "I Must Break You" stuff whenever he would come onscreen. There was huge potential for him to cross over in America, and HBO pushed him harder than anyone not named Oscar, as much as anyone in the last 10 years. But after the Sanders disaster, "I Must Break You," turned into "I Must Cautiously Jab My Way to a Safe Decision Win," and that was that.

 

"Throws hard punches from the first round to the last round" - Emanuel Stewart (HBO commentator)

Also Pacquiao has the THRILL FACTOR :good

 

This is all crap. Wlad and Vitali personify excitement, courage and resilience. Vitali had his back which was messed up, surgically repaired in a operation only perfected in the last five years. He comes back after four years in forced, injury reduced retirement to **** the number three rated heavy Peter. An unbelievable, unprecedented accomplishment. He then whips Gomez who most thought would be a very tough test. Now he wants to spank Arreola but the powers that be are trying to stop him. Wlad has slaughtered every top ten heavyweight contender now for well over three years, made Haye ***** out on some phony injury and now fights the much more dangerous number three contender Ruslan Chagaev for the Ring Magazine belt. These guys K.O. their opponents after completely humiliating them from a pure boxing perspective in the squared circle. The little Pinoy, athough a great fighter basically got beat by Marquez. The Klits dominate their opponents. June 20th will be just another example of their ruthless and dominate hegemony.

 

Excitement plays a part as Pac has a more fan friendly style, but Rushman also brings some good points into the mix about many (not all) peoples' predispositions about people from that region because of decades of conditioning. I don't think one answer is the complete answer, but a few different things are at play. Another is that we're also used to having US based badasses as HW champions, and if you can't be a badass in the ring, you've got to be able to capture public interest even when your fights aren't as exciting (in the waning stages of their respective careers, Ali and Tyson were both great at this). The Klitschko's don't really do or say anything controversial outside the ring between fights. Simply put, I think they're just too different for a number of reasons to cross over as successfully as Pacquiao.

That's not to say they've failed in getting any recognition here, though. Even though the Klitschko's aren't as popular as Pacquiao in this country, any objective fan and even those who don't like one or both as fighters respect them. They'll sell out MSG whenever they fight there, and they'll still get some mainstream coverage for their bigger fights.

They're not at Pac's level of buzz, but there aren't 5 fighters today in the US that are. I think they've presented themselves well and done pretty damn well considering the notoriety most European based fighters (especially heavyweights) usually achieve here.

 

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Pacquiao started from the scratch and made his name in U.S. while the Klits started to fight in U.S. when they already have a name. :deal

 

Okay, I admit I'm looking forward to a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight with the same, but not greater anticipation as I was to the Wlad-Haye contest. It's funny but everybody talks about the lack of talent and boxing ability at heavyweight but Wlad has rarely fought a fighter so hapless and ill-prepared as Hatton. At least Thompson and Calvin Brock tried to break up Wlad's rhythm and early on showed some defensive skills. I feel Pacquiao can be outboxed. Vitali and Wlad have never, even in defeat, ever been outboxed. To me, that is exciting. Can the difficult southpaw Chagaev, with his quick powerful left hand and tough chin win a single round against Wlad? The Klits mastery of boxing technique, combined with unusual two-fisted power resulting in the highest K.O. percentages in heavyweight history is to me, at least, very exciting.

 

Good point. Another factor- Pac made his bread taking on fighters who already had a big US fanbase. Outside of Lennox, nobody the Klitschko's fought had near the kind of popularity here that guys like MAB, Morales, De la Hoya, and even Hatton did (Ricky fought 4 times in Vegas and once on Boston before Pac fought him).

When I think about it, a fight like Wlad-Ibragimov selling as well as it did and getting the coverage it did here was a is a sign that they're not exactly unpopular here, though, since lot of US fans had never even seen Ibragimov fight going into it. Like I said before, given how popular European-based fighters usually are over here, they've done pretty damned good for themselves to get as known as they are.

But Pac? That's a perfect storm hitting and creating arguably the biggest draw in US boxing today. No shame in not being at the same level as that.

 

Because he gave de la hoya a one sided beating.

Had vitali or wlad gave an ali or a tyson a one sided beating then he would have been very popular in the US.


BTW, I'm a pinoy and this is the first time for me to hear that pacquiao is THAT popular in the US.