Leonard vs PBF

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  1. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Within how many rounds would Sugar Ray Leonard stop PBF? I think that Sugar Ray is a vastly superior boxer and puncher compared to PBF.
     
    ricardinho, Jun 13, 2009
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I dont know if Ray would stop him,but yes Ray is a better fighter and he would beat Floyd without a doubt in my mind.
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can't help thinking that Ray would have stopped him ala Benitez, via a chessmatch type of strategy, culminating in an explosive tko win. Leonard was the better fighter, IMO.
     
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  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I think in a 12 rounder Floyd MIGHT last the distance, yet drop a wide decision. But in a 15 rounder I have little doubt that Leonard stops him. Either way, Floyd would be no match for Ray. If Floyd had trouble with a past primmed Oscar, theres no way in hell he deals with a prime Leonard. Ray would be too big, too strong, too fast, and too powerful for Floyd. Ray had considerably faster hands than Floyd, which would make it impossible for Floyd to pot shot, or outbox him. Thats the problem Benitez had with Leonard, and its the problem Floyd would have too. He'd be unable to outbox Leonard from the outside, and if he was forced to fight him Leonard was just too strong for him.

    All in all... Mayweather has no chance with a prime Ray. Hell... its debatable if Floyd could even beat Benitez. I'd favor Wilfred.
     
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  5. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Over 12 Ray by UD....Over 15, Ray UD, or TKO in 14-15.
     
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  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    This!
     
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  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    It would be similar to the Leonard-Benitez fight, although FMJ has a better defense and better conditioning (yes Benitez's defense was flashier but he got hit more). Hence it would be a cosish tactical battle where Leonards speed, combinations, athleticism, aggresiveness and size wins him out the verdict
     
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  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    13/12 or 16/15 rounds. You really underestamate Mayweather.
     
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  9. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leonard fought and beat better competition than Floyd. Leonard probably the greatest welterweight ever. He was a more complete boxer skills, athleticism, intelligience, power, and drive. Floyd, sadly would never have entered the ring with someone like Duran ---he wont fight Cotto or Margarito and they called him out like Marquez did. It would have been a KO Floyd's tip tap crap would quickly be shut down by combinations that would finish him. You probably are under 30 yr old and hence could never understand how great Leonard or his opposition was. I think that from the 80's to now Leonard is the greatest Welterweight. I also believe that Napoles could have beat Floyd as well.
     
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  10. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd was just really not that good as a welter-jnr middle...not the kind of exceptional he was at the lighter weights.
     
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  11. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    I think it's a bit unfair to keep denigrating PBF by comparing him to Sugar Ray Leonard. PBF started his career at Super featherweight and Ray Leonard was a natural welter from the get go. Leonard will obviously have a big advantage physically.

    P4P, I rank Mayweather close to Leonard.
     
    Bonavena25, Jun 13, 2009
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  12. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have a hard time envisioning PBF getting dropped in this one. Leonard on points
     
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  13. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd favour leonard by a UD, a TKO is not out of the question but i would not favour this, floyd defence and chin are good enough to see him make the final bell but drop a wide decision IMO.
     
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  14. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    tghis is like comparing De La Hoya with Marvin hagler
     
    GPater11093, Jun 14, 2009
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  15. PbP Bacon

    PbP Bacon ALL TIME FAT Full Member

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    Leonard wins with a late stoppage

    Leonard is vastly superior to PBF, so, in my mind, the only question here is how long can Floyd survive
     
    PbP Bacon, Jun 14, 2009
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