Is Tonight Do Or Die For Cotto?

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I think my boy Miguel MUST win tonight. If he does, he's back on top so to speak. If he loses to Clottey, his stock goes WAY down.

    Opinions?
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    do or die for both fighters imo

    if Cotto loses he should contemplate retirement or rematch Margo
    if Clottey loses he downgrades to journeyman status
     
  3. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Yeah, but perhaps it depends how he loses. A loss would be devastating as he has gone from one of the main men to losing 2 of his last 3 fights.

    I think he beats Clottey tonight and looks impressive doing so.

    Cotto UD.
     
  4. Shattered Glass

    Shattered Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously depends how the fight goes. Clottey is VERY underrated IMO. Cotto has been fighting top WWs for years now. A few losses are expected when you take on the best. I expect him to win tonight though.
     
  5. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    I agree the he HAS to win tonight. But so does Clottey. This is his one shot at getting mentioned in the same breath as the marquee named welters.

    Cotto has a fanbase that would still show up for a second Margo fight or another Shane fight if he so happens to lose.

    It depends on how Cotto loses though. A loss for Clottey in any way, and its journeyman "ESPN FNF status" for him.
     
  6. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    We need to stop worrying about losses that much. If you always fight the best it's sure you will lose.
     
  7. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends really on the loss. An L on your record is back any time you get one but if he loses in the same fashion as he did against Margarito, he'll answer a lot of questions about his true make up.

    If he loses a close disputed decision? Stock will be hurt but not shattered. Clottey ain't no joke.
     
  8. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    I agree. But with casual boxing fans and the networks, losses DO matter unfortunately.

    Cotto don't duck nobody and that's why he's the truth.
     
  9. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    I totally disagree and that is what is wrong with boxing today and your way of thinking.

    if the loss is by brutal knockout then you have a point but if it is controversial or close then each guy is still a viable opponent.

    So I dont buy into this journeyman nonsense. He could easily lose and go into a fight against Berto or similar.

    If Cotto loses he still could rematch Margarito or Mosley so there is always possibilities but it depends on how they are defeated.
     
  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    This^
     
  11. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its do or die for both, sure both can still become champs after a loss tonight but I dont think the loser could ever really reach that true elite level.
     
  12. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    Nah. Cotto will get many chances, should he need them.
     
  13. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don'tbe daft, mate. Did his stock go down after the controversial loss to Margo? Hardly. If he wins then he sets himself up for the monster fights @ 147. If not, I'm sure Arum has already prepared the Margo rematch.
     
  14. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In other words, it's not do or die.

    Cotto drops out of the Pac/PBF sweepstakes with a loss but I don't think I'd call that "death". (Agreed, though, it makes the road to "elite greatness" almost impossible and it'd be a while before he got a truly big fight again, pending the Margo situation.)
     
  15. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A win for Cotto puts him in line for another big money fight : Either Mayweather, Pacquiao or Mosley II