The tragedy of Mikkel Kessler

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vanihm, Jun 16, 2009.


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  1. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You make some good points but I hope Kesslers argument isn't based on your claim that he didn't see any of the PPV money for the Calzaghe fight. It wasn't on PPV. It was shown in the US on regular HBO and the UK on Setanta, which is a subscription channel.

    Rightly or wrongly his best years are going to waste and it's very sad.
     
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  2. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think so, but Kessler would love to fight both fighters. He was out in the Danish media recently mentioning Froch as his preferred opponent and Bute coming in at 2 or 3. They actually had talks regarding a Kessler-Froch fight recently, but Kesslers legal issues mean that no one will touch him.
     
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  3. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    it was on PPV in Denmark.
     
    Vanihm, Jun 16, 2009
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  4. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    Markus Beyer was a top fighter and three time WBC supermiddle champ, beat the hell out of guys like Omar Shieka and Danny Green. Kessler KO'd him in 3 (by contrast Calzaghe TKO'd Sheika in 5). He may have been on the slide, but he was still top rated at the time.
     
    Vanihm, Jun 16, 2009
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  5. henrik

    henrik fasthands Full Member

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    It is clear that you don´t know what you are talking about,and clearly don´t know anything about whats going on in the boxing world.
    not even an idiot would say,that if he get a "good attorney",he could find a legal way to fight now??!! When you don´t know what your talking about,it´s better to listen and learn.:roll:
     
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  6. henrik

    henrik fasthands Full Member

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    You are absolutely telling it like it is...Kessler WANTS to get some big fights in USA,Mogens palle,just wants to milk the cow in europe.
     
    henrik, Jun 16, 2009
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  7. henrik

    henrik fasthands Full Member

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    for those who don´t know anything about negotiations or boxing in general,i can say,Kessler have ALLWAYS wants the biggest fights(he was the one who called out Calzaghe).Kessler is willing to take these big fights,palle isn´t,so stop saying all that **** about Kessler.IT IS MOGENS PALLE,THATS THE PROBLEM!!!
     
    henrik, Jun 16, 2009
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  8. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    I think Palle wants a fight in the States, but only if the money is right. Unfortunately, most of the big fights around SMW are agiast guys who don't have a big box-office appeal. Heck, even Jones-Calzaghe was a dissappointment and Lacy-Taylor was in a half-filled stadium. Kessler wants to fight the big names for the hardcore fans. Palle wants the money.
     
    Vanihm, Jun 16, 2009
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  9. TeflonDom

    TeflonDom Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler is now 30 - just one year younger than Froch and he's totally inactive. Whatever the reasons for his inactivity. he shot himself in the foot signing with Palle.

    He'll never get these years back.
     
    TeflonDom, Jun 16, 2009
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  10. Shattered Glass

    Shattered Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kessler is an amazingly pure boxer. He gave Andrade a beating - that chin was GRANITE though and stood up to it all.
     
    Shattered Glass, Jun 16, 2009
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  11. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    He signed with Palle ages ago - back when there was no real alternative.
    But Palle did a reasonably good job with him until the Calzaghe fight, and since then he seems to have lost touch. Like when he assumed that a WBA belt was worth more than Showtime exposure against Maranda.
    The problem is that Palle P*ssed off so many people in the US with that affair, no one bothers to negotiate with him anymore.
     
    Vanihm, Jun 16, 2009
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  12. Hexus

    Hexus WBA = Why Box Anyways Full Member

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    1. I'm an American.
    2. I am/was a Joe Calzaghe Fan.
    3. I am a Mikkel Kessler fan.
    It's too bad really that it seems a lot of people are ducking him, but like Joe, he's never going to get any recognition fighting most of his fights in Europe, it doesn't matter who he fights. I recall the analysts talking down about Kessler and Calzaghe during the pre-fight because both of them, regardless of their status, were relatively known in the US due to the fact that they both fought mainly in Europe, and they made a big deal out of the fact that Kessler was actually leaving Denmark to fight in the UK.

    Kessler needs to fight in the US, no matter his next opponent.
     
    Hexus, Jun 16, 2009
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  13. Flawless

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    Dawson offered Kessler a fight on HBO at 175. Kessler said no.
     
    Flawless, Jun 16, 2009
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  14. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    Palle said no. Big difference.

    This is one of the reasons Kessler wants to leave Palle.

    The money he was offered by HBO wouldn't even have covered their expenses.

    Why would Kessler want to fight at 175 anyway? Isn't Dawson bragging about how easily he can make 168?
     
    Vanihm, Jun 16, 2009
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  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    The people that trash Kessler are most likely people who don't like Calzaghe. Kessler is a top level fighter, just not at Calzaghe's level.
     
    Zakman, Jun 16, 2009
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