Can Someone tell me why....

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  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    yeah.
     
  2. D_knowsboxing

    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    JMM didn't necessarily dominate the bouts, but the outcome is undenible.
     
  3. Relentless

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    do you think the same about cotto-clottey?
     
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    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    Well if Cotto would have KO'd Clottey, then it would be undenible. Since he didn't and Clottey did everything in his power not to put Cotto away (on the cards) then we have wiggle room for debate.
     
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    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Casa is tough for anyone with his lefty cutie style and movement. JMM did very well. And Diaz had never been stopped before. Pac would have had problems with these 2 also but he decided to fight David Diaz.
     
  6. Mike_S

    Mike_S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry to be rude, I was going to give a more constructive answer but they had already been given. It just sounds quite simple to me. Pacquiao just beat the lineal champ of 4 years at 140 and looked great against DLH at 147, albeit a shot version but he was still the huge underdog and I don't know if there's anyone else out there who could've made DLH look so bad. Cotto appears to be on the slide or just not a complete fighter, not the biggest welter either and is ranked by Ring at #9 p4p, Pacquiao is the undoubted #1.

    Marquez seems naturally smaller than Pacquiao, has weighed in less and doesn't look so tight at the weight as Pacquiao has done yet has never fought above 135 and this fight is at 143/144 against the former undoubted p4p #1 who has won titles as high as 154.

    Saying all this, I went and bought 300 dollar tickets for JMM-PBF and based my first trip to Vegas coming from the UK around this fight, so I'm gutted, joke fight or not.
     
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    For Pacquiao: it appears the heavier, the more dangerous (scary, isn't it?)

    For Marquez: how effective he will be above 135 is still unknown. add mayweather as an opponent,...... ouch

    :smoke
     
  8. Relentless

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    well considering what Pac done to Hatton and Hoya (yeah weight drained) i can safely say he would have destroyed casa and diaz

    dude are you seriously trying to argue with me that jmm is better at the higher weights than pac?
     
  9. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I'm saying PBF didn't.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    You dont get to prove yourself if you dont try tho... let JMM at least fight at the weight before deciding its not for him.... remember Pac-hoya ?
    1 fight vs the shittest champ at 135, then straight to 147.
     
  11. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Not at all. I just think his lagacy at 135 is two times better then pac and he should be afforded the same opportunity as pac with out the negitive.

    he knocked out 2 guys who had never been knocked out at 135. what more can you ask of the guy?
     
  12. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Day of the fight...But Maybe you havent seen Pac Vs JMM 2. Dude its pretty obvious which one s a bigger mismatch.
     
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    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH looked shittier than Diaz and thats the point.
     
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    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    This is what I'm saying relentless. The guy has earned his chance to try.
     
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    ekar Active Member Full Member

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    JMM is one of the best in the world but, Why is there a person tying to sell me JMM at 147 lb. When he almost got KTFO by a guy name juan at 135? PBF leave the 135 pounders alone. We all know you want none of Mosley, cotto, Williams and margarito. But Can't you fight guys like bradly, Pacquiao, Berto, Holt, who are around your weight.