Ali-Frazier IV in December 1981-who wins?

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  1. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

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    In December of 1981 Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier both had comeback bouts 8 days apart. Frazier fought to a draw in Chicago against Floyd 'Jumbo' Cummings, while Ali lost a decision to Trevor Berbick in the Bahamas. There was actual talk that if the two were successful in their respective comeback bouts, that they would meet for a 4th fight. Who would have won if they did? Which fighter had more, or less, left in the tank?
     
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  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Frazier did better with Cummings than Ali did with Berbick......... Frazier was rusty and heavy at 229 pounds in late 1981, but not sick like Ali was............. I'd take Frazier over Ali in 1981............... Peace........

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  3. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    frazier
     
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  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Somebody might have actually died if that fight had occured.
     
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  5. anut

    anut Boxing Addict banned

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  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    The cemetery.
     
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  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who wins? The Sick Promoter; eh Don?
     
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  8. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier by stoppage. It would have been a shame if this happend.
     
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  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Ali looked all right vs Berbick. Frazier was shot vs Cummings. Ali would have won the 4th fight, and I for one am glad it never happened. A 4th Ali vs Frazier fight of old men would have diminished a mostly memorable trilogy.
     
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  10. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree and would also add that Berbick was a much better opponent than Cummings.
    Certainly glad the fight never happened
     
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  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Only a sick ******* would look forward to a fight between these 2 in 1981 :verysad
     
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  12. MRBILL

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    I thought Ali looked like **** against Berbick in the Bahamas in '81.............. Ali was slurring his speech in the dressing room and bloated at 236 pounds...... Ali had nothing in '81........ Christ, even his jab was a mere slow moving push....... Ali only went 10 rds with Berbick because he still had some defensive tactics in his bag..... Ali's offense sucked the bone......... Cheerio...

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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Co-sign.
     
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  14. The Predator

    The Predator Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with this as well. I am a huge fan of Ali but he wasn´t good against Berbick. I never seen Fraziers comeback fight so I can´t say anything. I´m happy it never happened. Ali and Frazier are two of my favourites all time, they lifted each other to even higher standards, the heavyweight division will never be that good again.
    All the best
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  15. PbP Bacon

    PbP Bacon ALL TIME FAT Full Member

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    I agree with everybody who says that thanks God this fight never happened. It would have been either a shame or a tragedy :nono
     
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