Bute vs Froch is coming soon

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  1. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    :patsch Yeaaaa i wouldnt expect anything less from a novice butetard..
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Meaning you don't have an argument against this because there ar ethe rules?
    You want me to quote the rules?
    Now hush cuz you don't have argument.
     
  3. FINITO

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    You're too thick in the head and u have very little boxing knowledge so there's no point in educating you..

    That fight was a robbery.. HOmetown cooking..

    Bottom line is, the ref shouldnt have stopped counting.. That was uncalled for and if it wasn't for his incompetence, ANDRADE would have won..
     
  4. FINITO

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    Did u even hear the announcers??? All of them were shocked by what happened.. They were saying that it was WRONG and did u see the look on BUTE's face?? Bute himself didnt believe that he won... c'mon now.
     
  5. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's right. Watch the end of the fight with a stop watch in your hands like I have done 5 or 6 times. He's up in about 7 or 8 seconds and the should have rung right there.
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Rule 6 in the IBF:
    6. The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout. If a boxer is "downed" just
    before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will
    not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor.

    That means the moment Bute got up(at the count of 6 before the ref turned around) the fight was over.Learn the rules.
    And anyway Andrade was closer to the middle of the ring than the corner so the ref could have stoped the count.
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes I heard them.

    Them,myself and many people didn't know the rules at the time.
    You apparently don't know them even know.
     
  8. FINITO

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    WHAT THE HELL.. :lol: LOok man i know the freakin rules..

    Bute was slumped all over the ropes with his eyes rolling back... MOst refs would have stopped the fight right then..

    Answer this.. Why did the REF stop counting in the middle???????
     
  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No,most refs would have not stopped ir right there.The guy was winning the fight and he got up.Steve Smoger wouldn't have stopped it.

    Why did the ref stop counting in the middle(after the fight was over because Bute was up)?
    Because Andrae was closer to the middle of the ring than the corner.
     
  10. David UK

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    Froch is light years ahead of Woods in terms of ability,toughness,power,amateur achivements and professional achievements.
     
  11. Boxing Tees

    Boxing Tees Active Member Full Member

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    There were so many things wrong with that 12th round. Being impartial, the facts that are indisputable are these: 1. Bute was knocked down and held up only by the ropes once, maybe twice, in the 12th round. Both could have easily been ruled knockdowns. 2. Bute should have been warned and or penalized for holding. Andrade was literally holding him up. 3. Bute's count was 14 seconds. 4. While he was "up" at 8, he was still held up by the corner. I do not know what the rule is for a fighter in this situation that cannot stand on his own power. Sure his hands cleared the canvas, but does that mean he can lean against the ropes or corner in an attempt to stand? I always thought he had to be clear of all parts of the ring, but I'm not that versed with the rules and I think this was one of those once or twice in a lifetime situations. But, I would love to know.
     
  12. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You seem to be honest so I will respond to your questions.
    1) In the unified rules or the IBF rules, the referee cannot give a standing count. The boxer has to lean helplessly on the ropes. I don't think it was the case. Anyway, an eight count would have helped Bute.
    2) Same thing for the holding. If the ref warns Bute, that gives him some precious seconds to recover.
    3) Bute was up at 8. The rule says the timekeeper is supposed to ring the bell as soon as he gets up. The timekeeper is the one who was in fault. When Andrade walked near the middle of the ring, the ref had to stop his count, that's the rule. No fault there neither. Bute got up, his hands cleared the floor, he was not leaning helplessly on the ropes (that's the rule you want to know), so he won.
     
  13. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I hope Froch-Bute will be announced this Monday.
     
  14. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a matter of circumstances...

    1- The referee knew Bute was way ahead on the cards and he was the champ, therefore a ref will always allow a champ winning heavily a fight, the chance to see it through..as much as possible.

    2- The IBF rules were properly enforced although the ref did look like an idiot by creating an unnecessary situation that had no outcome with the fight.
     
  15. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Bute was up by 8, even with a fast count. Wobbling? Sure. Could he have continued? No, but that's not a requirement. "Can't be saved by the bell" just means you need to get to your feet before 10.