All this hate for catchweights when JCC pulled the ultimate one in '93

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  1. Guidokz

    Guidokz Classic Psycho Full Member

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    This weight drained thing is a myth..

    boxers are gymrats, unless the fighter had difficulty shredding weight from his previous fights already, they can easily shed 2-3 lbs from their comfortable weight if needed without compromising their health..
     
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  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    That's completely false.
     
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  3. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Its ok, whitaker rolled him up and smoked him!
     
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  4. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha to divac with another self-assuring post. So are you implying that Pacquiao's a pill-pusher now? More excuses. Cotto was a longtime champ at 140. Many argued that he would be too small moving up to 147 when he first made the jump.

    Pea had ONE title fight at 140. His pit stop was indicative of not being able to make 140 anymore, as he NEVER WEIGHED LOWER THAN 145 EVER AGAIN. Your natural lightweight argument is bogus.

    If you want to use that toothless "natural weight" argument, then Pacquiao is a natural super bantam because most of his fights came at that weight. ALL THE WHILE MORE showing how he's moving up 22-23 lbs. for a catchweight while Cotto would be moving down only 3-4 lbs., seeing that he's a natural welter by your standards.

    To the other poster who said Chavez was not the smaller man, Chavez was the champ at 140. Whitaker at 147. Regardless of who was at what weight in the past years leading up to the fight, at the time of the fight, Chavez moved up in weight. Therefore, by LOGIC, smaller man.

    All you haters make me laugh.
     
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  5. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again, this is one of your stupid 15,000 posts. :lol: Roach only wants to protect his fighter from undue advantage.
     
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  6. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe you have forgotten that Pac started at 108 and is not a nautural welterweight. If Marquez could fight Floyd at a catchweight, why can't Pac? Is there a double standard here? What is good for your boy is not good for Pac?
     
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  7. eze

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    So Roach admitting they won't fight cotto or mosley unless they are drained is protecting his fighter? Okay sure its protecting his fighter but making what would be a competitive fight worthless.

    He's admitting they only want to fight these fighters unless they aren't 100%

    I guess thats okay with you?
     
    eze, Jun 18, 2009
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  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Floyd doesnt need to cut to make 147 like Cotto and Mosley both do.
     
    eze, Jun 18, 2009
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  9. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They are suypposed to fight at l44, not l47.
     
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  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Okay.

    But both mosley and Cotto cut 10+ lbs to fight at 147 while Mayweather cuts 1lb at the most.

    Thats why its okay for Marquez to fight Mayweather at 143/144 and it's not okay for Cotto or Mosley to fight Pac at that weight.
     
    eze, Jun 18, 2009
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  11. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    147 is not Pac's ideal weight even if he won against dela Hoya. If he fights at this weight, he's not 100%. He is at a disadvantage. They have to meet somewhere. That's why we have a catch weight.
     
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  12. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, if they can't go down, they should not fight a former lightweight at all. They have to agree to meet somewhere. If they cannot, there no point discussing a fight because Pac cannot fight them at l47 where he is vastly disadvantaged.
     
    Soriano, Jun 18, 2009
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  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    of course but you were trying to say why is it okay for Marquez to fight Mayweather at a catchweight and not Cotto/Mosley.

    And I gave you the reason why.

    Both are cutting a lot of weight as it is. Putting more stress on them to cut even more would put them at a huge disadvantage.
     
    eze, Jun 18, 2009
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  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Former lightweight.. come on. He's the Lineal Champion at 140. No more former ****. Mosley was a former LW Champion as well. Mayweather fought at Superfeather weight.
     
    eze, Jun 18, 2009
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  15. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. I'm not referring to Cotto/Mosley when I made that statement in response to Divac's post. As I have said if Marquez can fight in welterweight at a catchweight at 143/l44, why can't Pac? Floyd, Cotto, and Shane are of the same size right?
     
    Soriano, Jun 18, 2009
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