Do you agree with this Hatton - Witter quote?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Fat Joe, Jun 18, 2009.


  1. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    I def. don't think he needs to fight Witter as some sort redemption for losing to PBF and Pac, his career can stand for what it is (or isn't!!) on its own merits and a fight agianst Witter when both men are past their prime shouldn't change anything.

    For instance, when people discuss Tony Sibson he's remembered for the Hagler loss, then wins against the top Yanks, Minter, Kaylor and his European title. Only when you dig really deep you get to the footnote of "Oh, and he didn't fight Herol Graham". A few internet obsessives aside;), Hattons in pretty much the same boat with Witter IMHO.

    Do you agree with this?

    How far do you have to dig before you get to the footnote of "Oh, and he didn't fight Junior Witter".?

    Apart from the internet obsessives what do you think the opinion of boxing journalists would be. Men such as Hart, Abrams and Bunce. Would they agree with this statement or have a different view?

     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Yes I do but, unless you've started working for The Sun, the quote also includes the first sentence which explains the second sentence......;O)

    I'm confident that journos like Hart, Abrams and Bunce have been around the sport long enough to agree with "that quote" on the "big picture" of how this situation will be remembered 20 years or so down the line.
     
  3. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    witter didnt do jack**** for british boxing or the sport as awhole compared to ricky.....like i said before witter doesnt even deserve to be in the same arena as hatton let alone the same ring.....

    in boxing history 20 years from now, hardly anybody will mention hatton and witter in the same sentence.
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Joe, so you are asking for people to guess what they think Hart and Abrams may think about that statement? You could always just as Bunce what he thinks of it on here.......
     
  5. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    True...they will still be talking about Hattons comedy ring post headbutt routine, and his annihilation and humiliation last time out for years to come. Witter has never been either funny or annihillated so will just become a footnote in history.
     
  6. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but when they talk about hatton's accomplishments......witter will look like a glorified club fighter.
     
  7. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    most people wont know or care about Hatton - Witter

    except those that know the sport on a deeper level

    and will conclude that Hatton ducked Witter

    but most people dont give a **** about Witter

    thats just the truth
     
  8. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Have a word, and less of the fanboy stuff, we all respect fighters here, its what seperates us from those dicks on the general forum. You are right, Hatton has achieved in his career, probably over achieved if the truth be known, but to put a bona fide world champ like Witter down as a "club fighter" is a bit rich :thumbsup
     
  9. Brummy1976

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    Bit harsh mate, hes an ex champ with some good fighters on his resume and still could be champ again soon.
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    People who know the sport will debate whether Hatton ducked Witter (and for what reasons) but then, like now, I'm sure opinion will be split. This idea that "real boxing fans" will back Witter has always been a dodgy line of arguing IMHO.

    No one calls Sibson for ducking Graham because, although it was a fight a lot of people in the UK wanted to see, when they look back at Sibsons career with the benifit of distance and objectivity they focus on what he did achieve and win rather than 1 fight that didn't happen. Graham almost never makes any of Sibbos biographies in the boxing books or comes up in discussions on his career. Witter, like Graham, has done more than enough in his own career to warrant his own bio in those books rather than just be a footnote in someone elses.

    With Hatton-Witter some people (esp. a section of 'hardcore' internet fans) are too close to the situation to see how it will be viewed in 15-20 years when they are writing the history books.
     
  11. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    What does WBC stand for then **** breath?
     
  13. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am not sure in all honesty, but you're biasing (is that a word?) the question by including only U.K. journalists who would naturally have an interest in an otherwise unremarkable fighter such as Witter. Maybe we should change the question slightly and ask if guys like Steve Farhood, Doug Fischer etc... will remember the memorable nights and events with Tszyu, Castillo, Pacquiao and Mayweather? The successful trips to the States against decent world champs like Urango and Malignaggi? Or whether they will remember the fact that he never fought a champ-for-a-day type fighter who had some decent wins but never chased the big fights and never (bar one fight) came out of the comfort zone of his home country.

    I agree with most of that statement. In a decade's time, only hardcore boxing fans will remember Witter and only serious obsessives will still bang on about him when discussing Hatton's outstanding career.
     
  14. rhinocoote

    rhinocoote mexican steamroller Full Member

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    man,will you leave witter alone,he stands alone as a great english boxer.
    respect must be given.
    he's simply not as marketable as the slightly brash hatton.
    who cares if the non-fans don't know his name in a few years?.i will still,my first live fight was a witter fight,and his unusual style fascinated me enough to follow him and boxing in general.
     
  15. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    "skewing the question"??;)