Floyd Patterson vs. Rocky Marciano

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  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Patterson that demolished Archie Moore at a very young age versus Rocky Marciano that took the title from Walcott in '52.

    What do you guys see happening?

    Marciano weighing 184½lbs and Patterson tipping the scales at 182lbs.
     
  2. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i see marciano destroying patterson almost as bad as liston did.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    To be honest, I have always leaned toward Rocky in this matchup.

    Marciano was very tough on the inside, took a punch far better than Patterson did, had more power and could hit hard with both hands consisitantly throughout a fight. I don't think this would end as early as some might think, but I also don't see a 21 year old Patterson going life and death with Marciano the way that Walcott did. I'm thinking its a competitive fight for about 7 or 8 rounds with the Rock beating him to submission.
     
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  4. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    I think Patterson wins via TKO maybe in the mid rounds.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol: This is one of the worst stylistic matchups for patterson out there. He thought Ingemar Johansson could hit? Just wait till he faces the human wrecking machine Marciano. Ive commented on this fight many times, but basically what it comes down to is Patterson loved to brawl..He is going to come right into Marciano..With Marcianos two fisted power/workrate/strength this is SUICIDE for floyd. Patterson handspeed might allow him to give rock trouble the first couple rounds, but rocky will end things soon after.
     
  6. teeto

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    Marciano by stoppage.
     
  7. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    The only hope for Floyd would be for him to use his speed. Patterson was much faster than Marciano both in hands and feet. If he chooses to mix it up with Rocky then it's all over. If Floyd's lucky then he can put those fast hands to use and possibly cut Rocky badly about the eyes and force a stoppage on cuts but realistically I don't see it happening...not against the Rocky of Walcott I or Layne. Maybe against the Marciano of say Cockell or Moore but not the earlier power punching version of the Rock.
     
  8. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    I can see where you're coming from. But here is where I'm coming from. Johansson weighed 10 pounds more than the Rock. And in addition to punching quicker than him, IMO generated more power than him. Also Patterson won in the rematches, giving Johansson the only losses of his career. I have many other reasons for my picking Patterson, but I'll just state one more. It took Rocky 4 more rounds to stop Moore than it took Patterson.
     
  9. Muchmoore

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    Great fight for a round or two but Rock would finish the job within 4.

    Durability is the huge difference here.
     
  10. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    He was pretty much the same Rocky as far as punching power goes. The only difference is Cockell and Moore exposed that he wasn't quite as hard a puncher as his record suggests.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    irrelevant

    I dont think we can talk boxing anymore. Johansson harder and quicker puncher than the rock? Are you out of your mind? Rocky was 10x the all around puncher johansson was and rockys suzy Q was the better punch


    and Rocky didnt? Rockys career record is 6-0 6 knockouts in rematches!!! Rocky was one of the best rematch artists of all timer!


    Johansson also floored patterson twice and came close to stopping him. this was a fat out of shape johansson too coming in at a blubbery 206lb. Once again, Johansson was nowhere near the fighter or two fisted puncher rocky was.


    Some of the worst logic I have ever seen. It took Evander 8 more rounds to beat Larry Holmes than it did Mike Tyson, therefore Tyson will defintley beat evander.



    Patterson would get annihalated by Marciano....it would loook similiar to liston fight. Marciano and Liston are both in the same class in punching power and strength. Liston a slight bit more, but marciano was near his class in this regard. Floyd could not deal with ATG punchers with loads of strength, they are his krptonite.
     
  12. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe that the Floyd Patterson we saw against Moore was probably Patterson at his peak as a fighter, but the post-title Patterson fought with a style that suited him better in the heavyweight division. He was under-sized and also rather vulnerable, especially in the early rounds.

    I can't see Patterson winning a brawl against Marciano but I give him a chance of outboxing Rocky if he fights like he did against Chuvalo and Bonavena.

    Marciano could of course catch up with Patterson at any point in the fight since he was a much more effective pressure fighter than those two were.

    Patterson vs Marciano in 1956 would've been interesting, since Rocky was on the decline while Patterson was close to his best.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    You do realize chuvalo and bonavena both nearly outpointed him? I dont see patterson ever lasting the distance vs marciano. look at liston and johansson fights.
     
  14. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    Weight most certainly is relevent. Take some physics courses. And I won't comment on all your other emotional driven statements. I realize you love Marciano but you shouldn't let it cloud your logical reasoning.
     
  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had Patterson winning. Those were tough fights but he was never close to being knocked out.

    He was much more aggressive against Johansson and Liston, and got caught early. Against Liston he would have been beaten either way because he could not have outboxed Liston from a distance, Liston's physical advantages and his jab would have been too much, and surely had no chance of outbrawling him as he tried.

    Against Marciano he atleast has the chance of outpointing Rocky, even if it is a minor chance.