Boytsov vs Haye...who would win ?

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  1. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    That's basically the thing about Haye ... he hasn't even fought anyone at HW at Boytsov's level. Boytsov as young as he is has fought Bidenko. Povetkin has fought Chambers and a lot of other top rate HWs. Now that Haye has been so inactive and may have to actually fight someone in the top ten or near it ... the fact that we don't know enough about Haye at HW is translating into a more realistic assessment of Haye's place in the HW scene. Until recently he had been given the benefit of the doubt coz he was due to fight Wlad (today) and we all thought we'd soon find out were he was at.
     
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  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Boytsov would knock Haye out. Haye is not qualified to be in the top ten.
     
    Farmboxer, Jun 19, 2009
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  3. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Who is the best out of these? Dimitrenko, Povetkin or Boytsov.
     
    TerryESB, Jun 19, 2009
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  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Right now I'd give it to Povetkin, although I like Boytsov's upside the most if he tightens some things up. I'm going to wait until after the Chambers fight to get a better read on where to rate Dimitrenko.
     
    Rock0052, Jun 19, 2009
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  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I like Boytsov, but Povetkin keeps winning, he did win the gold and beat Chambers. However, Boytsov beat Bidenko who is better fighter than Chambers. I am leaning toward Boytsov.
     
    Farmboxer, Jun 19, 2009
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  6. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Haye would win this fight, as Boytsov is not tested on the world level yet. Haye is a very dangerous guy if he can get his power punches off, and I think the smallish Boytsov would be there to be hit by Haye. Just my guess...I may be wrong.
     
    kenmore, Jun 19, 2009
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  7. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that Haye hasn't yet earned his high rating...it's undeserved. Still, I think Haye has more seasoning than Boytsov, who is still a neophyte.
     
    kenmore, Jun 19, 2009
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  8. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Haye is so ****ing overrated at heavyweight it's not even funny.
     
    Slothrop, Jun 20, 2009
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  9. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At present Povetkin would probably beat both Dimitrenko and Boytsov,but Povetkin's young compatriot has a huge potential.
    Still too green to duke it out with the very best at the big boys' league though.

    Boytsov's style is totally wrong for Dimitrenko.Boytsov would probably knock the stiff Ukranian out.
     
    Odo, Jun 20, 2009
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  10. Grecorussian

    Grecorussian Active Member Full Member

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    Haye would win Boytsov if the fight takes place in the near future
    In the comparison of Povetkin, Dimitrenko and Boytsov I believe that
    Povetkin is better now. But I believe that in the future Boytsov will dominate. I was very impressed in his last fight with the ukrainian...
    Dimitrenko has a key-fight now with Chambers. Many things depend on this fight
     
    Grecorussian, Jun 20, 2009
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  11. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin doesn't look as solid as Boytsov with his boxing and he doesn't have ko power but he's got a crazy workrate , he tires his opponents with constant nonstop pressure...and he's got great combos.
     
    boxingcar, Jun 20, 2009
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  12. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know it's downright ridiculous....You know it's a shame that his fight vs Wlad isn't happening right now but at the same time...Is fighting Monte Barrett alone , enough to justify a direct shot at the belt ? ...

    I personally would give Boytsov the edge over Haye...i'd love to see this fight.. Even against Povetkin... The likes of Maccarinelli & Mormeck aren't as tough as these guys imo. Mormeck certainly doesn't have povetkin's workrate...and macca's is even more overrated than Mormeck.

    And Haye is propulsed at the top of the hw scene because he beat these two ?

    It's easy to claim that the hw division is ****...But get in he ****ing line...seriously. There's more deserving opponents already...I wouldn't give haye a chance against this prospect...most people say the contrary because they bought into the hype...Haye is a great fighter but he's got way too many flaws...He's great but he's not the next coming of christ for **** sake..
     
    boxingcar, Jun 20, 2009
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  13. crucialcookie

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    Wow some of u guys rely dont like Haye.

    Im guna be honest only seen boystiv twice but id still have to say haye wins that 1.

    Whats wiv all the haye bashing.
     
    crucialcookie, Jun 20, 2009
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  14. VINBYKO

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    Boytsov could use a few more fights before I would pick him against Haye.

    Not that Hayes resume is outstanding, but he is an explosive fighter.

    Would like to see Boytsov build on his experience first against some durable top journeymen , Guinn , Sinal Sam , Vidoz , etc.
     
    VINBYKO, Jun 20, 2009
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Boytsov KO4
     
    Seamus, Jun 20, 2009
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