Miguel Cotto or Oscar De La Hoya, who's more skilled?

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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After watching Oscar's Prime fights and Cotto's the 2 fights I focused on were the Shane Mosley fights. And I looked at Hoya's first fight with Mosley and Cotto's because Oscar was more in his prime. Most people will say that was before oscar hired Mayweather Sr. but still Oscar was much younger.

    Oscar had one of the best jabs at the time and threw combinations real good.
    But his defense and his skills from what I seen weren't as good as Cotto's. Oscar's defense improved a lot when he got with Mayweather Sr. But I still think Cotto's defense was better. Oscar didn't land no were the amount of solid punches on Mosley as Cotto did, even in his second fight with mosely, which is testament to Cotto's great timing. And before anybody brings up Shane being old against Cotto, I disagree and that was evident when Shane outboxed the fast Collazo and he did even more impressively than Berto did. And Berto is a fast fighter who's much younger than Shane.

    Another fight which you can compare is Cotto's fight with Clottey and Oscar's fight with Quartey. Quartey is a little more active than Clottey but he's not as complete fighter as Clottey from what I seen. And Clottey's defense is better than Quartey's. Oscar was getting outboxed against Quartey throuout the whole fight. I don't think Cotto would get hit with anyway near the amount of punches that Quartey hit Oscar with. Cotto out boxed Clottey in the later rounds of their fight and that was with one eye. Before he got cut, the fight was competitive but he was still getting the best of Clottey in those rounds before the cut and Clottey obviously is gonna land something because his defense is great but he couldn't hit cotto with anywhere near the amount of punches that he would of did to any other welterweight in the division.

    Basically If you watch both Oscar(a Prime one) and Cotto fight, you can see that Cotto is more versatile than Oscar. Cotto isn't great at one thing but good at a little bit of everything. His best asset I think is his deceptive hand speed and great timing and I think that's what people underestimate him on, which is why I feel people always pick him to lose big fights against faster guys.
     
  2. SuzieQ49

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    Is this a joke? The oscar of 1997-1999 the real PRIME 135-147lb Oscar was far more skilled than Cotto. In fact I dont think there was a better TECHNICAL boxer than oscar in the entire 1990s decade. Oscar has OUSTANDING TECHNIQUE and fundamentals and his jab at its best was a razor sharp bullet.
     
  3. McGrain

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    :deal
     
  4. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To you it might be a joke but to me it's not. So that's only in your eyes.
     
  5. Arriba

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    I'm a big Cotto fan but Oscar was more skilled in bundles. Even Miguel's best weapons are weak when stacked up against Oscar's.
     
  6. FINITO

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    Oscar and it's not even debatable..

    Look at the way he broke down Vargas. Now that was class.

    I bet Cotto doesnt have the ability to do that.
     
  7. Canibus81

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    I'm not a big fan of either. Lets not fprget Oscar loss to pernell whitiker and qaurtey in his prime. And Sweet pea wasn't what he used to be when they fought.
     
  8. Arriba

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    He didn't lose to Quartey in his prime but that's another fight for another time.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Forget Vargas...Look what oscar did to tito for 9 rounds and look what oscars jab did to the undefeated miguel angel gonzales
     
  10. Canibus81

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    VARGAS? LOL, He's never won any of his big fights. Cotto would beat him senseless. Trinidad ruined Vargas and Trinidad is one diminsional.
     
  11. Arriba

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    Right I mean switch them out in eras. Oscar probably wipes through all of Miguel's competition outside of Mosley.

    How does Cotto do against Tito, Vargas, Bazooka Quartey, Mayorga, Mayweather, Whitaker etc etc etc.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    What losses? these were close fights that could have gone either way. Oscar was the more effective aggressor in the sweet pea fight and landed more powerpunches, i scored the fight 114-112 oscar. Sweet Pea was past his prime but he was still Welterweight Champion rated # 3 p4p in the whole world! This was a HUGE win


    I thought oscar won the quartey fight....The last 12th round which could be scored either 10-7 or 10-8 oscar won him the fight. quartey in the 1990s was a better fighter than cotto
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    If oscar could beat but get robbed against a 2003 version of moseley, imagine what a prime oscar would do to 36 year old 2007 Moseley.
     
  14. Canibus81

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    Tito is one Diminsional. Any good boxer who uses lateral movement can give him problems and I know you ain't gonna say Tito got more skills than Cotto. Cause ain't it even close. All Tito had was power.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    Even the 1997 version of Whitaker smokes Cotto, so does Quartey, Tito knocks out cotto, also oscar lost a razor think split decision to a PRIME mosley while cotto barely escaped by a 36 year old past his prime moseley.