Pacquaio legacy is going to be questionable

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MrPR, Jun 20, 2009.


  1. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Nah Pac's got one convincing win over a prime ATG (MAB)
    He's got a win over an ATG (JMM)
    He's got four wins over past it ATG's (EM x2, MAB II, ODLH)

    That's more than a shitload of ATG's have already

    But of course according to haters, apparently he has to go fight up to 147 to solidify his greatness which is BULL**** he doesn't have to do anything he's already solidified his legacy. THIS MANNY IS DOING EVERYTHING IN THERE and if Cotto goes OUT THERE AND FIGHT HIM the blame goes to Cotto for agreeing to FIGHT THIS ****ING GUY at 144 lbs or whatever the weight was. And besides, WHAT THE **** IS HE WAITING ON THIS KID FOR he should go look for other options anyway
     
  2. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very good point.
     
  3. Guidokz

    Guidokz Classic Psycho Full Member

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    yup..

    cotto has very limited options right now, pac has a lot and cotto is just one of them..

    that's the fact..
     
  4. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roach said Pac was best at 140 and they we not going to move.

    Now everyone wants him to bloat up to 147 to meet his challengers. Some people will never be happy no matter what Pac does.
     
  5. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're completely missing the point. Fighting Mosely at 147 means Mosely will come into the fight at 160. Pac can't go above 147/8. That's a difference of 13 F*CKING POUNDS. 13 POUNDS!

    That's a MASSIVE advantage for Mosely and not a fair fight. It just proves Mosely can beat a smaller man. Meeting in the middle should mean BOTH MEN GET CREDIT.
     
  6. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Pacquiao is an ATG. Point blank.
     
  7. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, you're wrong. Having the advantage would be making them come to 140 where Pac is at his best.
     
  8. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Powerman is right.
    Pac will come bloated at l47. Advantage for Cotto/Mosley who'll probably go up at 160.
    They have to meet at the middle which is at l43/44. It's fair for both fighters.
     
  9. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Honestly Manny looked even better at 147 then at 135,had more power and speed!! he proved that at that weight he can still can be very effective and honestly i didnt see no difference in Mannys peformance,so i dont see any disavantages for Manny,yes i am aware that Manny is not a welterweight but u must also remember Mosley,Floyd,Cotto are not Light-Welterweights they can not just drop down to 140 or 142 and expect them to fight at their full potential,like i said earlier Manny has proven he still very dangerous at the welterweight limit,but we dont know how Mosley,Mayweather or Cotto performance would be at 140,we dont know if they will still be dangerous,so thats an advantage 4 Manny
     
  10. brando18b4h

    brando18b4h Active Member Full Member

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    Pac has the pull and can call the shots he is already a great fighter, and before it is all over an ATG.
     
  11. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dont give me none of that!! Manny is at his very best at 140,he didnt look nothin close 2 bloated when he beat Ricky Hatto at 140 in just 2 rounds,and mind you ricky hatton has ruled 140 for all these years and never been beaten at that weight class and what Happen when he fought Manny at 140,he got knocked out!!! please man seriously dont make excuses for Manny!!!
     
  12. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is your personal opinion. But have you ever experienced training a boxer like his trainer Freddie Roach? He is the better authority on what Manny can do at a certain weight. So, STFU because you have no credential nor credibility to speak of. Why force Manny to fight at l47 when his trainer told him not to do so? Manny is not forcing them to fight him if they cannot go down at an agreed catch weight. As I've said, he does not need to fight them anyway to establish his legacy as great fighter. Let's be realistic, dude.
     
  13. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    but you are the same people saying he only won because oscar was drained. which one is it.
     
  14. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's not questionable as it's already established.

    Julio Cesar Chavez's legacy isn't questionable, neither is that of Sugar Ray Leonard, or Joe Gans, all of whom fought in catchweight bouts as well.
     
  15. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    EVERYBODY'S legacy is questionable if you want to be a stickler. Ray Robinson's legacy is questionable based on the fact that he lost 19 times. Muhammad Ali's legacy is questionable in that he lost to Ken Norton and his fights with Sonny Liston were clouded by controversy. We can all make excuses for our favorite fighters and we can all point out the weaknesses and shortcomings of our rivals. Some assclown out there could probably put a spin on things to "PROVE" to me that Sergio Mora's legacy is greater than Sugar Ray Leonard's.