What Is Going On With Roach/Pacman

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Jun 21, 2009.


  1. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes and the Hop-Hoya fight was a sign that with proper training and diet you can sacrifice a couple of pounds and be ok. Hop a career middle well over 30 who started his career at 175.
     
  2. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats fine....then go fight JMM and valero
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    GTFO what about Mayweather vs Marquez?

    Btw you still think it's a fact Hatton has the mental edge vs Pac?
     
  4. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree. It's a sickening way for a so called P4P champ to behave
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hell yeah i still think hatton has the mental edge over pac...... mental edge in beer pong


    I personally dont think going up is as bad as coming down... but then again i never boxed so
     
  6. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    at 147 at fight night, why not?
     
  7. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok so if Cotto fighting Pac 145 is a disadvantage then you agree that even though JMM was outweighed 10+ by Pac ,Marquez was still able to put a clinic on him and im most eyes won the fight:smoke.
     
  8. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  9. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    P4P is mythical. Fighting at catchweight is real.
    You should understand the principle behind P4P rating, dude. :deal
     
  10. general

    general UNDISPUTED Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  11. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i thought theyd already reached some sort of agreement that it would take place at 147 and that cotto would not go up to more than 153 on saturday?
     
  12. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing of that sort has been agreed upon. As a matter of fact, there is no agreement yet signed or agreed in principle.
     
  13. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    What are weight classes for? I thought they were for people of the same size to fight each other without a huge size advantage. if a guy is to big at his NATURAL weight division then find somebody in your OWN division to fight. If you want to truly move up to a division then you should be ready to fight without all the stipulations on weight. look through out boxing history little guys took on big guys all the time and won. Michael Spinks gave away 20 lbs to Larry Holmes in both their fights BUT that didn't stop him from winning. That's just one example, it can be and has been done!!!
     
  14. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    In all honesty, right now I think Roach is very careful of who he puts Pac in against in addition to at what weight. He wants a fight he feels good about winning, otherwise, I don't think he will put his fighter's current run on the line. I think he is aiming to keep Pacquiao winning in order to get the biggest money fights. That means he will try to negate any size disadvantages that Pacquiao has by having guys meet him half way south, if they want to fight him.
     
  15. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A lot of people are pissed because if Pac wins at a catchweight then he'd get no props because of the weight drain. But the thing is, if Cotto wins at 147, people will say that Cotto won because of the size difference (heck a lot of people are already saying it now, Cotto is too big for Pac).

    From a fan's perspective, the ideal catchweight gives both fighters a chance to get props.

    The catchweight sort of negates the size advantage of Cotto because he won't be 100% at a catchweight, but he will still probably be 158-160 on fight night. So he will still be more massive than Pac. Pac gives up a size advantage, Cotto gives up probably a bit of a speed and endurance advantage. They both give up some advantage and hopefully create an even playing field. That's the whole point of the catchweight. That was the point of having catchweights before, that's the point now. Why the hell are people overreacting now?